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The more dogmatic one becomes, the more intolerant and hatefull they are?
So Richard Dawkins "The God Delusion" is even supported by scripture
Didnt Jesus say "There will be many that say 'We cast out demons, we healed the sick,we spoke in tongues' and he says depart from me I never knew you" & Jesus would prefer to hang out with the NON Believers and He found favor with both man and God?
Was the gospel message originally "Non theisism is the way to go"?

2007-01-29 12:55:05 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

So the original Jesus character was meant to be atheist, but was using religous terminology to help soften the blow. And christians then embelished the accounts of this man, because people have this desire to make people 'out of reach' to the average man and woman??
whats your thoughts

2007-01-29 12:58:49 · update #1

"jonah-nine" is that your age in with your name??

2007-01-29 13:06:09 · update #2

13 answers

Right on. However, Jesus was not an atheist. Proclaiming himself to be god, and able to talk to god, to hear god, and to see god would make him, keeping in mind the orthodoxy of his culture, a person suffering a mental illness.

He was obsessed with the occult and magic.
He had mood swings.
He had the delusion that the world was about to end.
He took a drug from Mary Magdalen while on the cross that mimicked death, waited until no one was looking and walked out of the tomb.
His feet were always dirty.

He was definitely malfunctioning. But, I don't believe he was an atheist. His use of religious symbolism was probably delivered with a genuine belief in those symbols, he just twisted them to his advantage. He was out of his gourd.

2007-01-29 13:09:26 · answer #1 · answered by voodooprankster 4 · 0 1

"The more dogmatic one becomes, the more intolerant and hatefull they are?"

Yes, that's right. The whole New Testament is about overthrowing the Pharisees and Saducees, who were cold and mechanical in their faith.

"So Richard Dawkins "The God Delusion" is even supported by scripture"

No, even atheists can do horrible things. Communists have murdered over 100 million people in less than a century, and they're athiests. Just because you don't believe in a god of some kind, doesn't mean you're not capable of horrible things.

"Didnt Jesus say "There will be many that say 'We cast out demons, etc..."

Yes, he did say there would be people who would come in his name and decieve people. He didn't say all of them would be. Mother Teresa, C.S. Lewis, Sir Issac Newton, Corrie Ten Boom, and many many more...all Christians, all good intelligent people.

2007-01-29 21:06:01 · answer #2 · answered by The Notorious Doctor Zoom Zoom 6 · 1 1

I will answer your first question about the Good Samaritan, but not the other wild extrapolations in your question about non-theism.

Yes, the parable does imply a gentile helping a destitute Jew on the side of the road. The Samaritan gentile would have known the man was a Jew because he was naked (and his circumcision would have been obvious). Yet the question Jesus is answering is "who is my neighbor." So the answer is, more or less, "anyone, also including the non-believers."

2007-01-29 21:03:50 · answer #3 · answered by Aspurtaime Dog Sneeze 6 · 2 0

The Good Samaritan story was told to Jews to tell them that the people they should care about (their neighbors) are more than just other jews. When Christ said that some will say that we cast out demons, etc, he also said that there would be some who did those things in his name and KNEW HIM. The key here is KNOWING Jesus Christ, not that non-theism is the way to go, because that's just obsurd.

2007-01-29 21:01:10 · answer #4 · answered by Tachus Ischus 2 · 1 0

First of all, The Good Samaritan story was to point out to all of us who our neighbor is - anyone that God puts in our path - it is everyone's responsbility to help those in need and are hurting.

Second of all - What Jesus said in regards to those who had casted out demons and healed the sick and so forth - what Jesus meant by that was if you fail to take care of those in need - the poor, the widow, the orphan, the sick and those in prison - than you won't go to to heaven. There are a lot of Christians who want to get a big name but they refuse to help those who really need help - that is a fatal error in God's eyes. But the Christians who are taking care of the poor, widowed, orphans, and etc., those are the ones who will go to heaven.

2007-01-29 21:03:58 · answer #5 · answered by wonderwoman 3 · 0 0

I saw a minister once who said the point of the story was that religious practice gets in the way of doing loving acts. The Samaritan did not have laws saying that he would have to ritually cleanse himself before re-entering the temple after touching an unclean person, as the Jews did. Therefore he did not hesitate to help.

Just a different point of view.

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2007-01-29 21:00:21 · answer #6 · answered by Chickyn in a Handbasket 6 · 3 0

To answer your basic question: Jesus boiled the Ten Commandments down to two: to love God and to love your neighbor as you love yourself. When one of the disciples asked him 'who is my neighbor?', Jesus told the Parable of the Good Samaritan to demonstrate that each person is your neighbor. Technically, Jews and Samaritans held different viewpoints on how to worship God, and weren't supposed to interact with each other. However, when the Samaritan found the Jew who had been left for dead, he cared for him, took him to where he could get help, paid for his care, and promised to pay for any additional expenses that might be incurred.

In other words, treat others the way you yourself would like to be treated.

2007-01-29 21:10:03 · answer #7 · answered by JelliclePat 4 · 0 1

We should love and help one another in a time of need. Regardless of skin color faith or culture anger and greed! Ones pride & grudge is to be dismissed &concern for life must over ride the ego, is what it teaches and he also told to love all men reguardless of whom and what they are.
Be kind be true be of good be, just be, assist one another all the time not just when one feel a need to, but must always want to it's human to do this, those other freaks mentioned in the story were "mentally deranged"really and most important the other men whom left this injured fellow was "indifferent" a true crime!

2007-01-29 21:04:09 · answer #8 · answered by wise 5 · 0 1

The Good Samaritan story is to point out the true love and compassion, like Christ had for us, is better than hypocrisy and love for one's self. True faith and love is the issue, not where the man was from, or his "religious" background. Does it make sense that God would encourage disbelief in Him? He Himself says that disbelieving in Him is foolishness, and a form of pride.

2007-01-29 21:00:38 · answer #9 · answered by Crono 3 · 0 1

Not at all. Samaritans back then were regarded as impure. Jesus was simply trying to illustrate the fact that people have recieved the truth (the Jews) it doesnt follow that they are going to put it into practice.

Jesus said we needed to believe in him to have eternal life, otherwise we were dead in our sins! People that deny God and teach others to do so have a horrible fate in store for them!

2007-01-29 21:00:00 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

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