Breed Bans?

Question

Do you believe in breed bans? If so, why? If not, why not?

I don't believe in breed bans because the people who are generally causing the problems with their dogs aren't just disobeying the law with their dog- they usually are dealing drugs, dogfighting, or doing some other form of illegal activity. Tha just means that the responsible people who follow the law won't be able to own their favorite dog anymore, and that specific breed will either go on the black market, or the criminals will move onto another breed. I mean, there's one place with breed bans that just passed a ban on Welsh Corgis. What did they ever do?

I do believe in vicious dog bans. Your dog bites a human, it's gone. Your dog bites another dog, but does not infict damage, that's strike one. Third strike, it's gone. Inflicts some damage, you pay the vet bill, plus a vicious dog fine and have to muzzle the dog in public. Again, 3 strikes rule. Kills another dog, it's gone. And I don't give a damn if the dog is...

a chihuahua. Same thing applies to small breeds. I'm sick of not being able to find an apartment even though my dog is a model citizen. And everyone I know who works with dogs is more scared of chihuahuas then large breed dogs! And since when are boxers and great danes dangerous!? That's crap! And I've never met a vicious pit bull! I have met a vicius chihuahua (I live with one.) a vicious german shepherd, and other vicious dogs. NEVER a pit bull. NEVER a boxer. NEVER a great dane. So what gives?

Tell me your opinions. And i'll probably respond quickly, or you can talk to me on Yahoo. =)

you don't what...?

A properly trained pit bull will be tolerant of other dogs and very friendly towards people. My puppy is overly excited to see children especially and she loves attention. She is also wary of other dogs when she first meets them, but then immediately becomes friends. I boarded her at a doggie day care overnight, and they said she was wonderful. She played and stuff, never bit or nipped. I don't expect she'll always be that way with other dogs, but with people she will be. With dogs, I think she'll become tolerant instead of overly friendly.

I don't think the breed bans will work though. I mean, if we can actually enforce the laws already in effect, such as Oklahoma's Vicious Dog law, and maybe add a law where criminals cannot own dogs, and actually enforce these laws, and have tougher consequences, then I think that would work. Breed bans will cause more problems. I know there's one state that had high dog fighting busts, passed a law banning pits, and now their dogfight busts have gone through the roof. It's more of a problem now.

Exactly! There's a lady I know who is against pit bulls, told me to have my puppy put down 'cause it's best for her, then said something about the only people who own pits are black and that's why they're bad and they're criminals or something like that, and i'm like...My boyfriend is black and he's not fond of pits at all. I mean, he's okay with my puppy, but he's not a criminal, nor would he ever own a pit bull. It's not because he thinks they're bad dogs - he's just not fond of the breed. He's more a border collie person. If he had to be a dog person. He likes cats. I think he's crazy. I like my cat, but if I had to choose between her and my dog, I would choose my dog. =)

I'm not saying vicious like that - I don't consider your shar-pei to be vicious. He's scared. That's different. I'm talking like the 4 pit bulls (only example I can come up with because it's the only attack on the news lately) who ran up and attacked a little boy. Yes, that attack could have been prevented in numerous ways. But my point is, that little boy didn't do anything to my knowledge to hurt those dogs. They did attack him. They were bred for fighting, viciousness, and they were malnourished and abused. They are vicious dogs. Your shar-pei isn't.

Another point to that story is that the pit bulls were banned in that city in this state. How did 13 pit bulls end up owned by that man? Hmmm, can we say black market? Breed bans don't work.

Exactly. I think all dogs should have to pass a temperament test, though, in order to be adopted out. There's a little boy I heard about who was attacked by a doberman his mother adopted at a shelter. He wanted to give the dog more food or something, i'm not sure. He got bit in the face for messing with that dog's food bowl.

Easily prevented. a) temperament test, b) who turns their back when their 1 year old child is around a dog you really don't know that well? Honestly.

All dogs, no matter the breed, should certainly pass a temperament test.

no what...?

Trust me, neither do I. I own a pit bull, but i'm still wary of other people who own them, unless I know for sure that they have trained the dog right. I'm wary of people who own rotties, GSDs, dobies, boxers, any dog that is high maintanence like those breeds. Malamutes, mastiffs, shar-pei's, st bernards...The list goes on. The dog doesn't have to be necessarily aggressive for me to be wary. It just has to be untrained. I don't want to walk into someone's house and have some 110 lb say hello by jumping on me. My parents' boxer is trained that when you tell him to give you a hug, he can jump up and give you a hug, but otherwise, all 4 feet stay on the ground. He doesn't beg for food, and he doesn't run out the door when we open it. He sits and patiently waits. My puppy is being trained the same way. All 4 feet on the ground, don't climb all over little kids, no play-nipping or even mouthing, etc. Stuff any dog should know.

Damn straight. Responsible people shouldn't have to suffer for what stupid people do. I can't find an apartment that will allow my sweet natured puppy because of idiots who have given the breed a bad name.

Exactly my point. Why ban the breed when there are good dogs and good, responsible dog owners? Anyone with an animal cruelty charge where they were guilty, or who has been convicted of a crime, should not be allowed to own an animal of any kind. Don't take rights away from people who are responsible. Don't punish people who bend over backwords for their pets. Maybe that's an exaggeration, but you get my point.

Answer 1

i anm on your side 100 percent no dog breed or dog is born bad it has to be raised prooly

as for breed leave them out of it there like races black whte red and yellow all and any of us should be treated the same with the same rights a dog is visious its done 3 strikes ....


: D its good im not the only one who is on the pitbulls or other bans side!!

Answer 2

Dangerous dog laws can be a problem as well though. In my city, if my dog chases a kid on a bike, he will be labeled a DD and need to be muzzled at all times, DD signage put up, $50,000 insurance, and licensed. My dogs are not allowed to roam, but isn't it ridiculous to label a dog as dangerous because it chases a bike? DD laws can be taken to the extreme, so I would be careful supporting them.

*ALL* they really need to do is enforce the leash laws with large fines and court appearances and that would take care of most of the problem. Instead they just pass yet more unenforcable laws. Idiots.

Answer 3

I don't agree with breed bans. Growing up, I had a dog who was part labrador, part pit bull. He was so friendly! All he did was play games all day long. He could easily knock you over when playing, but never once let out a mean bark. And my next door neighbor had 2 Rottweillers. They were such babies! The most they would do to you is push you into a corner trying to get you to pet them. And there were 2 toddlers in that house :)

Answer 4

Generally, I agree with you. It's usually the people who are the problem and not the dog. There is also research that shows that certain conditions are more statistically correlated with dog bites than breed, such as chaining a dog and unneutered males.

That said, some breeds are more prone to aggressive behavior and can be harder to train and aren't a good choice for inexperienced owners. These breeds present difficulties for those who have to enforce animal control laws.

The decision made by bad people to choose these certain kinds of dogs creates problems for those of us who work to try and help animals. Pit Bulls are often bred by people who want them for fighting and end up being poorly bred, and badly handled and thus bad candidates for adoption. People come into shelters and pretend to want to adopt them for the right purposes but really want them for the wrong purposes. Other people are afraid to adopt them even if they are nice dogs, so they never get selected. As a result, some shelters routinely euthanize pits regardless of their behavior.

Our shelter decided to allow pits but only those that passed their behavioral screening with flying colors - in other words, we hold them to a higher standard than some other dogs. We decided the same thing for rottweilers and dobermans. Fair? Probably not. But they are so hard to adopt, we felt like the ones we accept had to be exemplary canine citizens given how hard they are to adopt and given how the world views them. And we screen potential adopters very carefully for these dogs to make sure they don't fall into the wrong hands.

So, I don't agree with breed bans but I also understand the challenges some communities are facing. I think there has to be a better way and I think it comes down to more severe penalties on people who knowingly train, breed and keep vicious dogs.

Answer 5

Have your pal factor out to him that he's at severe possibility of having his dogs seized and placed to sleep because of the fact he will could tell others he's calling for a stud and lower back tell others whilst he has puppies to sell. Have her remind him that anybody who hears approximately his dogs ought to document him or document somebody he sells a puppy to, optimal to a dying sentence for his dogs in the two case. He additionally could learn that if he is going via with the breeding he's barely appearing for his very own egocentric motives--he's by no skill appearing in his dogs's superb pastimes. If I have been your pal and he does breed her then i could reluctantly end the friendship. i think of it quite is the only thank you to place across how incorrect he's that if he is going forward with this. stable success.

Answer 6

I disagree with them too. Dogs are not bred to be vicious, they are made vicious by the people who own and/or interact with them. I have two boxers and a dachshund and the dachshund is more vicious than either of the boxers, who are sweet as can be. Breed banning is a type of stereotyping!

Answer 7

Yes, I'm scared of little dogs too. They always are so nervous and they'll just come up and bite you. I see your point about breed bans. I don't like the idea of a dog that's threatening but not biting.

What DID Corgis do to get banned? Must have been herding.

Answer 8

I am not "for" breed bans....but I can tell you, with kids and several dogs and cats....I do NOT want a Pit living next door to me.
They are not bad, but they are owned by too many people for the wrong reasons. Really, most people cannot be "top dog" over their YORKIE, let alond a Pit. I do not want some babied, undiciplined big, strong, aggressive dog next door.

Answer 9

I have mixed feelings on this one. Generally, I would say no. But as it stands, I do believe in breed bans because people are not taking responsibility for their pets. Too many people are breeding for viciousness. If people are not going to take responsibility, then the law has to.

Answer 10

Why are you going to blame a dog for being vicious? Dogs are not vicious they don't grow up wanting to kill people, How are you going to based on what morons are doing to them, beating them, torturing them to get them to fight and then blame them when they hurt someone blame the owner not the dog, I have 3 rescued shar-peis all abused in different ways. I have one that was abused to be a fighter, when I took him out people would run up on me trying to pet him, You do not run up to an un-known dog and pet it, Especially in his case. I walk him and I am aware of everything around me, I stop kids and people dead in there tracks if they try to run up and touch him. I tell them how to reach out to him and then I allow them to pet him. He is not dangerous but he doesn't trust new people understandable since he was left for dead, but I have worked with him and I trust him completely. I just think thats not the answer to kill a dog because its vicious, there are people out there like me who are willing to help this dog to get them back to normal and we always tell people when adopting out history, that way there is no surprises and teach them how to handle the dog. Dogs are not vicious, humans are and they teach them to be that way.