To all evolutionists:?

Question

If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes? Did they just miss the memo, or what? And if the universe was formed by all matter coming together and exploding out to form everything, where did the matter come from in the first place?
And yes... I am a Christian who believes in Creation, so please don't answer with accusations and changing the subject. just want to know if anyone can answer these two questions...INTELLIGENTLY!

Fine... if we each split off and evovled from "other" prehistoric creatures, explain the incredible difference between the two species. Splitting hairs here.

And the matter that formed the universe had to have been created at some point, thus the reasoning for a creator.

Thank you all for answering... very entertaining. I personally think that it is impossible to explain everything in our incredible universe. And it is pretty amazing to think that we ended up here by chance. But to each his own. To those of you who wish to doubt God or hate Him... Jesus loves you too!

Answer 1

I love the 'typical' evolutionist responses here. Not one has even attempted to answer, they just run you down. True ignorance at it's finest.

Answer 2

I personally am not Christian but i am not sure why people use the big bang theory to tell you there is no God. Also not sure why you use God to say that the Big Bang theory is false.

This quote comes from a book by Leon Lederman, a Nobel Prize winner. It is called The God Particle - you probably wouldnt agree with the rest of the book but......

In the very beginning, there was a void, a curious form of vacuum, a nothingness containing no space, no time, no matter, no light, no sound. Yet the laws of nature were in place and this curious vacuum held potential. A story logically begins at the beginning, but this story is about the universe and unfortunately there are no data for the very beginnings--none, zero. We don't know anything about the universe until it reaches the mature age of a billion of a trillionth of a second. That is, some very short time after creation in the big bang. When you read or hear anything about the birth of the universe, someone is making it up--we are in the realm of philosophy. Only God knows what happened at the very beginning.

Even the scientists dont know - therefore the athieists dont know either. That doesnt qualify you to know either but everyone can make what i suppose you would call a philosophicaly/theologicaly informed guess.

As for evolution, that does not exclude a maker who set off the whole process so I dont understand your problem there either. The only thing it does exclude is that God made the world in 6 days and that it is 6000 years old. However I dont hear a lot about geology and that also debunks the same ideas.

I have to say that if God is testing his people he cerainly did a very good job of it, he planted rocks into such formations that the world seems much older. He also planted lots of extinct creatures and plants that become more and more complex over what he has made to look like time (the rock layers). I dont understand why it wouldnt be more likely that like other cultures all around the globe that biblical accounts such as that of creation and Adam and Eve couldn't be folk stories, oral traditions if you will for explaining to a less knowledgable people how their God loved them and created them. This would make them teaching tools but not necceccarily accurate. I'm not sure people would have been able to understand the theorys if God had told them to people thousands of years ago.

Evolution hapens very slowly and because of adaptations to differences that happen in the planet over 1000,000,000,000s of years. It stands to reason that not all the species would change but that if one area led to one type of evolution then it might not happen else where. Remember there are different types of ape, evolved if you will over different areas. If orangutans evolved in Indonesian rainforests and chimps evolved also in rainforests but spread further, humans could have evolved (in africa) from some kind of primate in Africa (which is where the scientists say we come from). Also dont forget there were a lot of species that died out along the way.

Once evolved we then started to populate the whole planet and spread out from Africa From common ancestry, the theory goes that from here we adapted slightly differently, for instance those in colder darker climates lost the pigment in their skin as they
did not need so much protection from the sun but they did need to absorbe more sunlight so they could continue to make vitamin d.

I am afraid that as a lay person this is my best attempt to answer your question inteligently I hope it is what you were looking for.

Answer 3

Actually the theory of evolution does not say man evolved from apes, only that theyshare a common ancestor. If I remember correctly, it was a newspaper reporter who created this fallacy, at the time, in reference to Darwin's theory. It was done to sell papers and it stuck.

As for how the universe was formed, the theory you asked about is only one of many that exist. There are even several versions of the Big Bang theory itself. One of the latest theories (greatly simplified) is that there are many different dimensions, floating one atop the other, when one touches another it creates another universe.
As I understand it: The matter you asked about wasn't there first, but came later. It formed from the tremendous heat energy released into the vacuum. Matter is a stable form of energy.

The thing to remember is that these are theories, and they have supporting facts. The theories were drawn from those facts. Theories can, and have been shown to be wrong in the past when new evidence shows up, and then are replaced with new theories, or if the evidence can prove the theory, it becomes a scientific law.

Answer 4

The ape population was split into two groups either by geological or sociological barriers. One subpopulation found itself in an environment that encouraged bipedal locomotion and heightened cranial capacity. The other subpopulation remained in the environment in which it had evolved, and so had no need to change.

Look up inflationary era on wikipedia and do a search for 'inflaton'. That will answer your second question. The visible universe came from the whole universe, which itself is basically eternal since it exists out of our particular space-time.

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I've oversimplified so you can understand. There are thousands of splits involved.

And if you wish to insist that the existence of matter implies a creator, then what does that say about the existence of a creator? Either it is possible for something to exist uncreated, or your creator and the universe both have creators.

Answer 5

1- a common misconception in chritisn rhetoric is that "we evolved FROM apes" that is actually a scientifically correct statement. We are related to "apes" as we share a common ancestor. you should do some research for your own knowledge about australopithicines and other hominids that existed before us, and became extinct. However, as we have not even existed for 100,000 years and many of them were around hundreds of thousands of years, they can actually be considered more successfull life forms than us.

2- To that I say, "we don't know yet", something religion is unable to do as the process of religion is that it must purport to have all the answers, while science is a process based on discovery and testing.

I now ask you, and turn the quesiton back on you, if god created the universe, who or what created god if there was nothing before then who created god?

Answer 6

To get an intelligent answer it helps to ask an intelligent question, unfortunately neither part of yours is.

But here is the quick answer, you never know.

Regarding apes, nothing says that speciation means two new species, one can split from the other if isolated and interbreeding does not occur, ergo, one existing and one completely new species as soon as interbreeding is no longer possible, there is also the point about common ancestors but i'm not going to beat my head on that particular rock.

As to your second question, regressing to god solves nothing, we have a turtle problem.


Edit:

Incredible difference...... you mean the 2 % divergence in DNA, wow !!!

And you may not have noticed it but we are essentially the same as every mammal on the planet and a fair few of the other species, we all eat, sleep, reproduce, breathe and defecate in the same way, oh you mean we don't look the same.....

And look up turtle problem or infinite regress in Wikipedia or something.

Answer 7

Simple,we evolved from a COMMON ANCESTOR.The apes you see in the zoo now are not the same apes that inhabited the earth 3 million years ago.
The 'big bang' theory is just a theory.Many people don't believe it,even some atheist don't belive it.The universe is so grand that we may never know how it was formed.But to say that some deity made it in six days is crazy.You think the big bang sounds farfethced,read genesis again.

Although I agree with you on the big bang,You need to read more on evolution before you make a statement about it. Toodles.

Answer 8

If you wish your question to be answered intelligently then ask an intelligent question.
We DID NOT evolve from apes, but have common ancestors with apes. I.E. We evolved from the same primate ancestor as the other apes did.
Evolution is undeniable fact, it is indisputable and if you try to tell intelligent people otherwise then you just look like an idiot. Don't take my word for it though, fin out for yourself, look at the real evidence and expand your mind, don't just accept some BS spouted by your parents and the church from some Bronze age scripture with no basis in historical fact.

Answer 9

This is so stupid.

Don't you see thats an argument against creationism NOT evolution?

Look if we were magically created by a wave of the sky-fairy's wand THEN you could ask why are there apes - because we'd be the point of creation, and indeed that's what most theists believe. However we are not the point of evolution, you might as well ask why there are humans when there are apes. That doesnt make any less sense than what you asked.

If god made man from dust, why is there still dust? Puzzle over that, Einstein.

Answer 10

I don't know what an "evolutionist" is, but scientists who study the origin of mankind currently believe both humans and apes evolved from the same ancestors. Evolution does not imply progress, so your question makes no sense.

If you believe God created everything, then where did God come from? Whatever you answer, substitute that for the answer to your second question.

Answer 11

We evolved from a common ancestor.

Biology 101.

Re TheAngel 1025 (below): we are attempting to answer the question on a level you might understand. If you would like a more advanced answer, you must ask an intelligent question.

The question as put is rather like me asking why Muhammad and Jesus didn't finish their lunch with Buddah before setting off on the green unicorn. It displays no understanding of the subject into which one is inquiring.