Is Jesus God or a Prophet???

Question

You guys are associating Jesus(PBUH) with God.

1. God Is All Knowing.....But Jesus Was Not

When speaking of the Day of Judgement, Jesus clearly gave evidence of a limitation on his knowledge when he said, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32 and Matt. 24:36) But God knows all. His knowledge is without any limitations. That Jesus, of his own admission, did not know when the Day of Judgement would be, is clear proof that Jesus is not all-knowing, and that Jesus is therefore not God.

2. God Is All-Powerful.....But Jesus Was Not

While Jesus performed many miracles, he himself admitted that the power he had was not his own but was derived from God when he said, "Verily, verily I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do..." (John 5:19). Again he said, "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent me." (John 5:30) But God is not only All-Powerful, He is also the source of all power and authority. That Jesus, of his own admission, could do nothing on his own is clear proof that Jesus is not all-powerful, and that therefore Jesus is not God.

3. God Does Not Have A God.....But Jesus Did Have A God

God is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He does not call upon nor pray to any others. But Jesus acknowledged that there was One whom he worshipped and to Whom he prayed when he said, "I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God." (John 20:17). He is also reported to have cried out while on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46). If Jesus were God, then couldn't this be read, "Myself, myself, why hast thou forsaken me?". Would that not be pure nonsense?

When Jesus prayed the Lord's Prayer (Luke 11:2-4), was he praying to himself? When in the garden of Gethsemane he prayed, "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt." (Matt. 26:36). Was Jesus praying to himself? That Jesus, of his own admission and by his own actions, acknowledged, worshipped, and prayed to another being as God is clear proof that Jesus himself is not God.

According to the Bible, God is an invisible spirit....

4. But Jesus Was Flesh And Blood

While thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said that this could not be done with God when he said: "No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18). "Ye have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape." (John 5:37) He also said in John 4:24: "God is a spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth." That Jesus would say that no one had seen or heard God at any time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is clear proof that Jesus was not God.

NO ONE IS GREATER THAN GOD AND NO ONE CAN DIRECT HIM...
BUT JESUS ACKNOWLEDGED
SOMEONE GREATER THAN HIMSELF WHOSE...

5. Will Was Distinct From His Own

Perhaps the clearest indication we have that Jesus and God are not equal, and therefore not one and the same, comes again from the mouth of Jesus himself who said in John 14:28: "My Father is greater than I." When someone referred to him as a good master in Luke 18:19, Jesus responded: "Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is God..." Furthermore, Jesus drew clear distinctions between himself and God when he said, "I proceeded forth and came from God, neither came I of myself but He sent me." (John 8:42)

Jesus gave clear evidence of his subordination to God, rather than his equality with God, when he said in Luke 22:42, "not my will but Thine be done" and in John 5:30, "I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent me." That Jesus would admit that he did not come into the world on his own initiative but was directed to do so, that he would acknowledge another being as greater than himself, and that he would negate his own will in deference to affirming the will of another, give clear proof that Jesus is not the Supreme One and therefore Jesus is not God.

Conclusion
The Church recognises the Bible as the primary source of knowledge about God and Jesus. But since the Bible makes it clear that Jesus is not the Supreme Being and the Supreme Being is not Jesus, upon what basis have you come to believe otherwise?

The belief that the Supreme Being is a Trinity is false and completely inconsistent with the words of Jesus as presented in the Bible. God is one, not three. He is a perfect unity.

If you are interested in the truth about God and your relationship to Him, we invite you to investigate the religion of Islam.

Jesus(PBUH) will not save you guys in Judgement day.

It's not Father Son relation but rather Creator and Creation relationship


Even Jesus(PBUH) will not save you from Hell Fire




Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the Will of the Father who is in Heaven. Many will say to me on the day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!"

Who was put on cross

Quran says not Jesus
http://islamcode.com/audio/crossing.html

JESUS & THE MESSAGE -
http://islamcode.com/videos/jesus_messag e.html

Jesus - peace be upon him
http://islamcode.com/VideoLectures.html

The Bible indicates Jesus' prayers at Gethsemene went unanswered, even though he stayed up through the night crying and asking God, "Let this cup pass from me, even so, Your will be done."

Yet, according to Quran, Almighty God did answer his prayers. He did not go to the cross, but rather the likeness of him was put on another person who did go to the cross and Almighty God, caused Jesus, peace be upon him, to be saved, protected and he is with God and will return in the Last Days to lead the true believers to victory over the evil ones.

http://islamcode.com/sonofwho.html

Answer 1

Qur'an [5:75]
- Christ the son of Mary was no more than an apostle; many were the apostles that passed away before him. his mouth was a woman of truth. they had both to eat their (daily) food. see who God doth make his signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth
- Say: will ye worship besides God, something which that no power either to harm or benefit you? but God he it is that heareth and knoweth all things.
- Say: O people of the book exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper), trespassing beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by, who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the even way.

Answer 2

Jesus is the Son of God, which He is part of the Holy Trinity. Only God the Father knows the time and date of when Jesus will come back. They are two different, but share the same job. God The Father is a Spirit, while Jesus is in bodily form.

In the Old Testament, Ezekiel, Abraham, just to name a few, actually have a vision of Jesus before He came to the earth in a physcial body. Ezekiel said that he saw what looked like to be a MAN sitting on the throne. Which he referred to as a SON OF MAN. Jesus used this term all the time.

Jesus is the Son Of God, which only through Him can we go to God The Father.

In Islam, Jesus is known as the Prophet Isa. One difference between Christianity and Isalm is that Christians say that Jesus is Divine/The Son of God, while Muslims just say that he was a prophet(The deny his claim to be divine). To them, Mohammad is the divine one.

Answer 3

Even Satan knows the word of God with great knowledge.

None of those things prove Jesus is not God. Just as you have Water, Gas and Ice... so are the three parts of the trinity. Each is unified and is one, but each has very separate abilities and strengths.

Jesus stated multiple times that he was God. He could not have been a biblical prophet AND stated he was God. He would have been a heritic and probably insane. You cannot believe that Jesus was a good man but NOT God. Again, he would have been a crazy loon.

Jesus was God, Is God and will come back in the clouds.

Answer 4

YOU WILL NEVER convince me of that
When Jesus said, "I and my Father are one," the Jews sought to stone him for blasphemy, because He being a man made Himself God the Father (John 10:30-33). They sought to kill Him when He said the Father was in Him, again because He was claiming to be the Father (John 10:38-39).

When Jesus forgave a palsied man of His sins, the Jews thought He had blasphemed because they knew that only God could forgive sin (Isaiah 43:25). Jesus, knowing their thoughts, healed the man; thereby showing His divine power and proving His deity (Luke 5:20-26). The Jews were right in believing that there was one God, in believing that only God could forgive sin, and in understanding that Jesus claimed to be the one God (the Father and Jehovah). They were wrong only because they refused to believe Jesus' claim.

It is amazing that some people today not only reject the Lord's assertion of His true identity, but even fail to realize what He did assert. Even the Jewish opponents of Jesus realized that Jesus claimed to be God, the Father, and Jehovah, but some today cannot see what the Scriptures so plainly declare.

Answer 5

Though he was God,
he did not think of equality with God
as something to cling to.
Instead, he gave up his divine privileges;
he took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form,
he humbled himself in obedience to God
and died a criminal’s death on a cross.
Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor
and gave him the name above all other names,
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

oops. you forgot to read philippians 2.

the answer was right in front of you...Jesus is and always has been God, but he put aside those things in order that He might live perfectly as both God and man.

your last verse is about insincere people who claim Christ, but they never live out His commandments.

i say this all the time, but a good hermeneutic and proper exegesis would solve all of these problems.

Answer 6

Actually He was both. The list that you lifted off of some web site clearly demonstrates its authors ignorance to the bible. Sorry, but a bunch of scripture verses disconnected from the rest of the word of God only demonstrates someones lack of skill in handling the word correctly.

Answer 7

Jesus is not God. Jesus is Son of God. A Son of God is one who comes to deliver the fallen souls. He does this by delivering the word of God, as it is, to his followers. Therefore, the words of Jesus were non-different from the words of God. If one wants to know how to perfectly worship God, one approaches a bona-fide spiritual master, and by perfectly worshipping the master, becomes perfectly qualified to worship God. Jesus said, "I and my father are one", and "seeing me is as good as seeing the Father". But He did not say, "I am God".

If you give instructions to your son, "Tell your brother to do his homework. No tv.", and your son tells his brother, "No tv. You must do homework", then what is the difference between your instruction, and your son's instruction? Your son, by your authority, is as good as you. In this sense, you and your son are non-different. Your son is your qualified representative, and should be respected as if he were you.

This is the mistake that is made when people say that Jesus is God. It is leading to all different interpretations, and confusion.
If you worship Jesus as you would worship God, that is fine, that is proper. But, if you worship Jesus AS God, then scripture will contradict you, and more interpretations will have to be made to accommodate your perception.

Answer 8

it says in Matthew 28 18 " Jesus said " i have been given complete authority in heaven and on earth" which says to me, that Jesus has to be god now and always, because god gave him complete authority over all things. plus since Jesus being the son of god, Jesus is all power because god can give Jesus the go ahead to do anything

Answer 9

To much words.

Jesus is a part of the holy Trinity.

Look at how much simpler this is than a 10 page cut and paste.

Peace!

Answer 10

Isa(PBUH*) is the next to last Prophet of ALLAH who was born of the virgin Maryam and came before Prophet Muhammed(PBUH*).