Is anti abortion wisdom(?)more relevant than that of Catholic forefather St. Thomas Aquinas?

Question

Recent medical study found that about 15 percent of pregnancies ended in miscarriages during the first 20 weeks. The study further said, “The actual percent is probably much higher because most miscarriages occur by the 12th week, before they are even detected.” ( Journal of the American College of Ob- Gyn, Oct.2006).
If such embryos/fetuses are “persons” as some claim, does that mean that nature (or God) is a rampant abortionist? If such embryos/fetuses have “souls” as some claim, are those billions deprived of a heaven because they are not baptized?
Or might this scientific finding be a significant indication that such embryos/fetuses are less than human beings? Such was the teaching of the highly regarded Roman Catholic theologian Thomas Aquinas. He thought that before “the quickening” or perception of movement of the fetus , 16-20 weeks, it was not yet human, and that aborting it was a moral option. "
What possible value can the views of a Catholic theologian hold for Protestants or even for contemporary Catholic church hierarchy?

Answer 1

NEVER ANY CATHOLIC EVER HAS SAID THAT ABORTION WAS IN ANY WAY OK. What you have said that St thomas Aquinas said is libellous. The catholic church teaches and defends fierecely the rights of the unbornded and it has always been so. What the catholic curhc teaches and upholds and has always done so is that when God creates a human being God infused the person at CONCEPTION with a soul. This uniting soul and body in a composite being since inception. this my malinformed friend is the view of st Thomas Aquinas, a doctrine that has informed catholic and Christian theologu ever since. Thomism more than many others has always defended the human dignity of persons because of our created nature, and because of the presesence of that soul joint with a physical body that is effected by God at conception. Anything else is just wanting to confuse people. Definitely st thomas Aquinas had the limitations of his time, but even so, the trueths he arrived at are still valid today, and it's astounding the depth he had concernign theology and philosophy. He never advocated anything that was not informed by right doctrine moved not only by his privileged intellect but moved by the Holy Spirit. But I wwould really like to know, in what part of his writting did you find such quotation, I would like to examine it, really.

The Catholic church is a champion in the defense of the unborn, everybody knows that.


I think a girl here who wants to punch St Thomas, is actually confusing St thomas with St Augustine. St Thomas in his Summa theologica actually does defend the beauty of sexual love as what it is: A gift from God, beautiful and good. It was St Augustine that said that it was through sex that the original sin passed by, not st Thomas. St Thomas said that sex was beautiful and sacred, and it was because of that reason that God wanted us to respect it and enjoy it responsabilly in matrimony and love, not in licentiousness. God bless

Answer 2

Do you believe yourself to "always be right"? There are times when you've been wrong about certain things. Is that not correct? Now, just because you may have been wrong about something in one area, does that mena EVERYTHING you have to offer in other areas is of no use?

This is the standard you are holding Saint Thomas Aquinas to: The idea that the countless times you've been right about something means nothing because of the few times you're wrong. This is disingenuous.

No one is claiming Saint Thomas Aquinas or his writings are infallible. His insight into the nature of unborn human beings leaves a lot to be desired by today's standards. But that's because human biology of his time left a lot to be desired, again by today's standards.

He was a brilliant theologian whose insight and writings shaped a lot of Christian belief.

Answer 3

The "Catechism of the Catholic Church" is more authoratative than St. Thomas Aquinas. Itr writes"

1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them," allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism."

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"2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.

My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.

2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:

You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.

God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes."

Answer 4

God is an "abortionist" because some people die before they are born??? That makes as much sense as claiming God is a murderer because people die at all! You miss the point completely. God has full authority over life and death. He alone can rightfully and justly decide when a person dies. Our lives are a gift from Him, whjich He allows us to use for a spewcific length of time which He alone has the authority to decide. Abortion and other forms of murder usurp that authority from God, telling Him, sorry God, it's gonna be done my way, not your way. That's why murder is wrong.

Answer 5

The point is that by the time the mother gets to the abortion table, the kid is developed enough to know what's happening to him. I saw a film that SHOWED the poor kid trying to defend himself from that relatively gigantic killing probe.

And don't get me started on Aquinas! After what he's done to human sexuality, I'll have to stand in line for a few DECADES before I get the chance to punch his lights out!

Answer 6

Anti-abortion is intolerance for freedoms. if someone so chooses to have an abortion, fine. Just don't come srying to me that mommy and daddy wouldn't pay the abortion bill.