Why dont young muslims rebel against islam's repression and unfairness?

Question

Why dont young muslims rebel against islam's repression and unfairness?


It makes no sense to me that female muslims are wanting to cover themselves up and where repressive clothes somehow thinking being submissive and weak and hiding who they are is somehow moral.


Whilst the guys are wanting to dominante and bully girls and gays.


And both wanting abusive, perverted, murderous sharia law...


Er Why?

Its nasty..


Why not be like the 60s flowerchildren hippy types and be fighting for equal rights, peace and to be affectionate and find love and the right to express self?


And simply have fun without hurting others.


Likewise why dont the brothers to protect sisters simply see they get self defence lessosn, turning them a bit more tomboy and well as girlie, help them pull, have a go at anyone who tries to hurt them by being mean to them for having a boyfriend.


Maybe beating up their dad if he so much as thinks any family honour repress daughter bullzit

Nominating her for MTVs date my sister if she has not got a boyfriend or not so good at dating so she finds someone to snuggle up with and make out so happy...


Whilst attacking mosques who are unfair and repressive to girls.?


Is that not morality and protecting a sister.


Wanting her to be happy?

And morality based around minimising hurt or harm not causing it.


Does it not occur to them if both tried to do this fitting in, not separating themselves from all the other societies.


People would be cool with islam as its the repression everyone hates especailly after fighting for equality for women and gays and the rights to be sexaul?

Stunning quote

' you are just an ignorant. '


That makes no sense...,. why is it ignorant?

Ahmed

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hey i didn't read all what you wrote.......but i got the message......well .....in islam sexuality outside marriage is not allowed for males and females.......and unfair too is not allowed...and girls shouldn't expose their bodies like WHORES...that's it.........if some morons missinterpret that.....blame on them........

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Why care what is or is not allowed .... Thats the point. Why are you not independant and say... ok alcohol is bad as makes people violent.

But sex is about love and therefore good ?

And a girl showing body say in sexy outfit is not different from a guy drining around in a pimped up car and kicking trainers to look cool and attract girls?

Also a whore wants money to go with someone.


Point is is other groups can tell their relgion to get knotted if it appears out of order, unfair or repressive and backward...


Why dont you?

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Knowlege seeker.
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' listen, I am a woman n I'm telling u this. Muslims pay more respect to their women then westerners do ok.

u don't know the real thing. i have studied islam n it is great. i don't know about ur sis but i really like this relgion as it is '


** If that was true please explain things like girls in the birthplace of islam not being allowed to drive cars and being forced to adhear to dress codes gauy are not.


Explain why girls are stoned to death in agony for dateing whilst in the west they are not.


And explain things like family hnour killings and forced arranged marraiges?


As in the west we treat girls as we would want them to treat us.

And yes that means I would like girls seeing me as sexual and hot like a boy band member as it would mean I got dates and would not be lonely.

Nothing wrong in either sex seeing the other as sexaul... Thats nature and brings people close together.

As long as interested in them as a person too

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ur nuts!!!!
i'm a muslim n i dont find anything WRONG with covering myself properly...


Whats proper about it? And this would apply equally to guys... Its nature to attract a mate and express yourself

as for keo I know nothing... try this


Islam links

Executing 13 year olds girls for having sex… Death by stoning the most violent, agonising and scary way… See video after link

http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2004/october/izadi_161004.shtml


DEFFINETELY SEE THIS ALL THE WAY THOUGH TO THE END

IMAGINE THE SCREAMS AND USE A STOPWATCH


http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm



TREATMENT OF WOMEN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ateqeh_Rajabi

http://www.iranliberty.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=18&Itemid=63

http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/intcam/saudi/briefing/4.html

http://www.dhushara.com/book/sakina/stoningetc/stoning.htm

http://www.rawa.org/jail.htm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=396745&in_page_id=1770

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1328238.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2567077.stm

http://www.hindunet.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=71832&Main=60597


GAYS BEING EXECTUTED

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1838222,00.html

http://clarityandresolve.com/archives/2005/07/iran_killing_ga.php


more teenagers being executed


http://uk.messages.news.yahoo.com/World/threadview?bn=UK-NEWS-WOR-Religion&tid=7667&mid=7667&tof=10&m=tm&rt=2

teenage girl to be hung in iran for defending herself against rape. And another for sex
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009746.php

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?story...

16 year old hung for having sex.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/08/29/do2903.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/08/29/ixportal.html

http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3661

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547102

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21502

Death of a princess
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/princess/

http://www.transdiffusion.org/emc/behindthescreens/princess.php

Stoning for making love during miss world
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2240790.stm

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=155606

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5184

ALL punishments are carried out in the name if ISLAM

http://www.middleastwomen.org/html/bulletin/bulletin-5.htm



WHY ARN'T YOU HORRIFIED BY THAT & FIGHTING IT?


SMASHING THIS SYSTEM THAT KILLS GIRLS

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Living in a Muslim country is actually very liberating to me. Men here do not sexually harass me because they do not see me as a sex object. They see me as a woman, another man's wife, and a person deserving of respect. I have never been mistreated here or spoken to in a derogatory manner. My body is not stared at and comments are never made about my appearance. How is this oppressive?


Just as someone finds someone attractive does not mean they dont respect them and er guys like to be seen as a sex object too... Thats the bit you dont get. Us guys would love to be on the cover of fit sexy blokes weekly.

Guys need girls to say nice butt, you have sexy muscels, your hot. Its compliments or we feel ugly and worthless and have no confidence.


you also need to note most are single and unless they find someone to be attracted to they stay theyt way and thats not nice its lonley

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Plus just as may think a friend is hot does not mean I disrespect her in any way. Many people end up in couple with a prevous friend. Likewose I would want guys to fancy mates or suisters so they get a boyfriend and end up happy with somoen to snuggle up with.

Beats being alone and hurting. Where is the morality in that?

Habouri

Bing fiar means no rules like


Girls have to cover up and guys dont, or guys can drive and girls cant, or girls have to cook and clean etc

as for

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And before you talk about how women are treated in Islam let me tell you you got no respect for your women..in Europe most of boys have gf and just play sex games with their gf and cheat on their backs..so where is your respect?
prostitutes are everywhere in Europe..go to Amsterdam?is that respect to have women behind glass like that?did u do anything so stop things like that and show your respect for christian women?
Before you talk about something and give some stupid links.. go your research first.

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Its up to a girl if she wants to be a hooker or not. Guys could be too if girls were as despirate... Most guys going to hookers are simply lonly and would treat them like a girlfirend.


Guys also care about their girlfriends and love them...


And er girls also dump and play around behind guy

guys back and the same as the guys,.


Girls play sex games too.


The only reason why they aint married is they aint that close yet.

But we aint stopping girls do anything they want to you guys are.

Answer 1

Brainwashing. Lots and lots of brainwashing, mixed in with the culture itself. You'd be amazed at how easy it is to turn people into uneducated slaves or mindless engines of hate. Not all Muslims fall for it or grow up with it, but there is no denying that it happens...

Answer 2

As a western woman having lived in a Muslim closed country, I can tell you it won't happen. They are so indoctrinated by fear that conformity is the only safe option for them. It is so sad to see the state of the women in some of these countries. And even as a Westerner I found myself being indoctrinated into that mindset as inferior. It took me a very long time even after I got home to the States to not step back respectfully when a man approached and give my place to him (whether at a counter or in line somewhere etc) or to look men in the eye, or to keep my head up instead of looking down etc. If I could be so thoroughly brow-beaten by the daily psychological abuse there, just imagine what it is like for the women born there. No woman born in Western society should EVER live in a Muslim country.

Answer 3

These things change very slowly. The "christian" world is not yet out of it. Islam is also about 300 years younger. They have the same problem the Church had. The majority of changes run against beliefs. and it takes people a long time to realise that belief and truth are not synonymous.

Answer 4

Wow you have a long *** question but one I will take seriously. I don't know honestly people are used to their way of life. It probably has been that way for many many years. They probably look at us and ask the same questions. We are all just from different places with different beliefs and morals. Some of us many never understand anything outside of what we know. The best thing to do is just let it go. There is not much you can do to change hundreds of years of customs and beliefs.
But do try to speak to some people who are Muslim. See their take on these things or you won't know for sure if what you are seeing is a mass issue with all Muslims.

Answer 5

lots of the folk posting solutions are idiots. they are asserting you may't venture islam via fact it makes islam look undesirable. What makes islam look undesirable are the terrorists. nicely each and every faith has contridictions. you only ought to do what's suitable on your heart and not hassle approximately people. everyone has their very own point of spirituality and you ought to grasp that.

Answer 6

Next time write a book. Look at it this way. We are All Sinners. Not One of us are Perfect. As for told by the son of God. My Answer to you is get a life.

Answer 7

My, what a very big question you have.
Maybe they don't see it as repressive, and unfair.
After all, all of us are the products of our culture / environment. Everybody has their own view of what is right. And wrong.
What a nice, middle of the road, fluffy, feel good, didn't actually answer anything answer.

Answer 8

Do you know any Muslims? Have you asked any Muslims how they feel about these issues? I sincerely doubt you have of you would find that the majority of Muslims respect their religion and its practices. I know this because I spoke to many Muslims, men and women, before I married a Muslim man and loved to his country.

Living in a Muslim country is actually very liberating to me. Men here do not sexually harass me because they do not see me as a sex object. They see me as a woman, another man's wife, and a person deserving of respect. I have never been mistreated here or spoken to in a derogatory manner. My body is not stared at and comments are never made about my appearance. How is this oppressive?

Answer 9

hey mate. as a Muslim I tell you Islam is very fair thank god, women are not allowed to have sex before marriage and we are not neither. It's as easy as that.
And before you talk about how women are treated in Islam let me tell you you got no respect for your women..in Europe most of boys have gf and just play sex games with their gf and cheat on their backs..so where is your respect?
prostitutes are everywhere in Europe..go to Amsterdam?is that respect to have women behind glass like that?did u do anything so stop things like that and show your respect for christian women?
Before you talk about something and give some stupid links.. go your research first.
Peace

Answer 10

Any religion that rewards some of its devotees with 72 virgins when they get to paradise for a particular act in the name of the faith, is first of all, to a great extent about sex, because there is only one use for a virgin to a man, and which young male will rebel against the promise of such a reward in his future and work against his own good fortune to have been born into a faith that promises such? Paradise must have a virgin factory working 24 hours a day given all the suicide bombers. It is human nature to love and enjoy sex and every culture has developed ways to mitigate and control this natural human drive and need. Islam is no different, just more efficient in dealing with the issue. Christians have been controlling sexuality a lot longer than muslims and in medieval times could be considered to have been as repressive as any other religion. In Victorian times western women never showed any skin except hands and face....much the same as Islam. It is time that evolves the traditions and alters perceptions.... I personally prefer to see the beauty of the opposite sex in all its glory as we do in the west and live with the rules our society has evolved to help males control their responses to such stimuli. Having lived among muslims for 5 years in India, I can observe that respect for women is not the same as valuing and involving their abilities,equal to men's, to create solutions to society's needs. A society that doesn't use half its intellectual resources properly, but hides it away from its full potential to contribute...shoots itself in the foot. Women are beautiful and intelligent and complement us men in making life a success, and should be allowed to freely use both attributes to make their own lives better as they choose and see fit. Recent scientific studies suggest that males select potential females as mates based on criteria unconsciously selected by genetic programming based on sight and scent of a range of females. This implies that societies that expose their members to each other more closely will in the longer term produce a better balance genetically among its members. Holland in Western Europe is now rated as producing the best human specimens on the planet, in part because of good health programs, partly because of good genetic mixes. Science and culture, Islam and Christianity, oil and water. Just as the west is striving for heaven and a better life..so too is the east, but with methods different from ours. If islamic societies and women find their own customs to be onerous, then it is up to them to change the society, and not for us in the west to decide what is best for their women. If their men love to not see their women as we see ours and their women prefer not to be seen uncovered...so be it if that is their choice. I once had a muslim girlfriend and she told me that all the girls in her family were trained from young that sex was a natural phenomenon that was not to be denied the husband, and she was prepared to have as much sex as I wanted. Her freedom and libido in the bedroom was in complete opposite contrast to the image presented to society. So judge not too hastily.

Answer 11

Dictatorship Indoctrination , Fear , Threats and the "Carrying" out of Violence and Death ..--- Being Lied To By Evil , Religious Power Mad Lunatics.......World Wide " Islamic State" -- Sharia Law --- Suppression ==== A Load of BOLLOCKS