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spay and nueture programs?
I read a small blog about this being a small problem but when I went to google it.. I couldnt find any facts just wondering if this is some backyard breeders made up story or what
thanks

2007-01-28 04:04:39 · 8 answers · asked by GrassRootsRabbits 3 in Pets Dogs

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It's not so much that it's happening now (very good possibility in Albuquerque however), but something that can happen if these mandatory spay/neuter bills and laws continue to be passed.

It's making it hard for the breeders that you want to be breeding, the hobby breeder and small scale breeders. It makes them spend more money then they have in order to continue breeding. As it is they are already making no money on their dogs. it makes requirements so high that the majority are unable to comply and simply stop breeding. When you have the majority of breeders stop breeding, you lose the genetic diversity that you want.

You also have to think about the rare breeds that are out there as well. There are some breeds that only accounted for a marginal percentage of the total registrations. Most of these rare breeds are bred by small scale breeders and hobby breeders. If they go out of business what happens to those breeds? yes, they are effectively wiped out!

All of the above is what animal rights organizations want to happen. They do not want humans and animals to have any kind of relationship other then the look from afar relationship. This means no pets, no meat for food, no kind of animal/human interaction. With the spay/neuter legislation that is being passed all over this country, they are on a fast track to accomplishing that goal!

Rodeochick, that's simply just not true. How many of those dogs in shelters are true pure breeds? The number is roughly 20-25% of the total shelter population. Breeders of pure breeds are not the problem.

I say this time and time again, but all I am ever told is that I am wrong, but I think these people don't truly think about what I am saying, they only see what they see and nothing else.

There is no overpopulation problem, it's an owner retention problem as the good majority of the animals in shelters are sub-adults or adults, not puppies. These are animals that had a home, but were given up for whatever reason. Read that again... these animals had a home! They were given up. They were not born homeless, they were not born in the shelter.

Education is a key to the owner retention issue. These people need to be educated on the many problems they can and will face when owning a puppy/dog/cat/kitten.

Now I am not saying that puppies are not born in shelters as some are, mostly born by stray dogs.

Another thing that will go very well into reducing the amount of mix breed dogs in shelters is enforcing the leash law or having a leash law to begin with. Then there wouldn't be the accidental breeding to the female dog 2 blocks away from the male dog 4 blocks away that met in the middle somewhere as they were roaming. This will effectively lower the chance of accidental breeding.

My own female dogs aren't spayed and have no intentions of spaying them or breeding them. It's not rocket science keeping an in heat female dog away from a intact male dog. My dogs when in season are watched over, never left alone while outside and we have a privacy fence surrounding our property. The only male they come into contact with while in season is our neutered male. He came from the SPCA, turned in for being a Husky as an adult dog.

I am not a dog or cat breeder. The only thing I have bred are 5 wonderful children. I do plan on becoming a Boa Constrictor breeder however sometime down the road as long as we are still allowed to own pets.



Thank you whpptwmn! At least someone on here gets it! I don't know how to get these people even to use a little bit of common sense as that's all it really takes.

2007-01-28 04:21:34 · answer #1 · answered by nanookadenord 4 · 3 0

Nanook - What can I add, another great post!

Wiping out ALL breeds (and mixes as well) is the whole REASON why the ARs support these laws. And all the brainwashed masses keep unknowingly supporting their no-more-pets agenda.

S/N laws mainly stop the good breeders. Why do people think that the thugs or the uncaring owners will be trotting right in to comply with these laws???

I know someone with Azawaks, there are only a handful in this country. Every one removed from breeding is detrimental to the breeds gene pool.

It is true, and if people keep supporting anti-dog laws, other breeds will be affected as well as their numbers dwindle.

MSN laws do NOT work! Just look at the fricken mess in LA county, soon to be followed by messes in Albuquerque, Louisville, and Minnesota.

2007-01-28 12:48:35 · answer #2 · answered by whpptwmn 5 · 4 0

NOT TRUE

byb's are making it up. Got to the local shelter and see how many dogs are there

Edit for NANOOK:

I AM NOT SAYING I AM FOR THOSE LAWS, BECAUSE I AM NOT!!!! However, I think that most of the people with a rare breed, have done their homework. They are not like labs. Everybody and their brother has a lab, and about 60% (or more) dont know what the heII they're doing. This is because labs are SOOO popular. Most of the people that breed rare dogs are ethical breeders because there is NO money in them and they're hard to get rid of. Unlike labs and beagles, that can (unfortunatly) be money makers because EVERYBODY wants one. Therefore those rare breed will not be effected. I am not really very familiar with the laws and again, I am not for them, and YES, I KNOW that *ETHICAL REPONSIBLE* breeders are not the problem, because I totally support them, but the BYB's ARE .

However, I do realize that there is a MASSIVE owner retention and education problem. You made a VERY good post.

Im sorry and will educate myself more on the laws

2007-01-28 12:20:42 · answer #3 · answered by Nurse Autumn Intactivist NFP 6 · 1 0

No. It is unlikely that any breed of dog will be wiped out by spay and neuter programs. Most pure bred dogs that are altered are done because they are not good examples of the breed.

I haven't heard of any breeds being in danger of being wiped out. It sounds like some sort of propaganda by puppy mills and BYBs so that they can raise prices of their pups.

2007-01-28 12:25:26 · answer #4 · answered by Katslookup - a Fostering Fool! 6 · 2 0

I think your correct and some breeder made that up, they do that so you wouldn't spay your pet, so that they won't get the pet back if anything goes wrong. Many breeders say this. For more pet spaying inforamtion there is a link below:

2007-01-28 12:13:05 · answer #5 · answered by cyanosis 3 · 1 1

I understand the human race is suffering from the same problem, 1st world nations are practicing birth control and 3rd world nations aren't their populations are growing and our's diminishing. We're being bred out of existence.

Come guys and girls we have to start having more unprotected sex, if we want to compete.

2007-01-28 12:27:48 · answer #6 · answered by Old guy 124 6 · 0 1

i had a cross breed dog and its mother had a lung disease and the father had a kind of cancer in the mouth so whe she was born she died a few minutes later ad i cried because her mouth had skin growing over it and she could not open it so my dad cut it open and by 15 20 minutes later she threw up he internal organs its sad if you think about it cause she had no tongue :(

2007-01-28 12:12:47 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

awwww what a cute baby girl, awwwwwwww

2007-01-28 12:07:39 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

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