Why are Christians AND liberals alike hung up on "judge not, less ye shall be judged"?

Question

OK, I can understand why the Christians are, it's in their holy book,
but don't you think it needs to remain in the context of common sense?
Surely not all of us are beyond judgement by our community.
What does a judge do for a living? Do you have to go to school for ten years and have a degree and the actual position in order to judge?
NO> Society judges and it keeps people in line and it rightly convicts and hopefully punishes those who do wrong in society.

Everyone has the right to judge if you have a reasoning mind and have some concept of right from wrong.

Hey don't judge me just because I'm a serial killer! I have an excuse! You need to walk a mile in my shoes!!!

ok, you're free to go.

Answer 1

* you are taking this whole thing out of context. us non beleivers have to keep reminding the "Christian" that they are not suppossed to judge. That command is for them, not the unbeleiver. That command is to keep Christians from doing exactly what they do do. that is they do not live what they preach, but boy they want to tell us unbeleivers we are going to hell every chance they get.

that command has nothing to do with legal judges, it has to do with ordinary people setting themselves up as better than others and judging others as less than human or not good enough.

Jesus knew people would have a problem with the holier than thought attitude so that is hwy he gave this command.But do Christians listen? NO!

Just look how they judge the gys her on Y/A*

Answer 2

This question is based on ignorant assumptions, no offence. Has the author read the bible? There are all sorts of erroneous passages in the bible which few Christians would deny do not form any part of their faith. Its an interpretive thing, you draw from it what you want to as a Christian. Its bad interpretations by church leaders and extremists that lead to trouble and hypocrisy, but thats a human error not an error in the Christian faith. The bible is in many senses a historical record perhaps often of folklore in the old testament. Or allegory such as Adam and Eve

I won't address the liberal thing because I am Australian.

In terms of christianity, I am most fascinated by Jesus and what a force of goodness and wisdom he was. I don't profess to be a biblical scholar either. But my clumsy feeling of Jesus' ways is that they were not judgmental by any means. Probably quite the opposite. He was a man in sandals that walked around helping people and providing teachings. He wanted the word to believe in God. He didn't go around judging, but he stood up in matters of integrity. All sorts of money transactions were occurring in the temples and he wouldn't have it. He turned the pawnbrokers out. Is that judgment? The Pharissees came to fault Jesus and asked him why his disciples did not wash adequately before they ate for it was a big deal to wash your hands in their culture and at that point Jesus fired up calling them hypocrites, because to them washing was almost more important than praying.

You have to call it as it is as a leader, and that is a judgment in one sense of the word but not in the sense you are alluding to.

I don't presume to judge anyone, even a murderer, we are all sinners. There are consequences and I would have no compunction allowing the execution of a serial killer, but it is not for me to judge such a person. You are right murders have to be dealt with but that is the judge exercising the will of the people in the interests of the community, its a different thing.

Answer 3

Because judgement usually arises from ego. We judge everything in this world from our own self-concept, whether something is pleasing to us, supports our point of view, makes us happy etc. or we are rejecting something because of the opposite circumstances.

We need to have a concept of what causes HARM or NOT, and from a more intelligent, wise and logical angle than just from what pleases us or not. You're judging from YOUR perception of something, which is valid perception to YOU, but not CORRECT perception in accordance with the way the world really works. Nobody nor anything is ever inherently "good" or "evil" therefore to label someone and ignore them, hurt them or deny them rights, based on your perceptions is arrogant and harmful... to you they seem to be idiots and "suck" but someone out there does not agree. To that someone else the person you think sucks, or does behaviors you consider "immoral" might be VERY altruistic, loving and kind and not doing anything that causes harm.

We can "judge" in order to discern "harmful" from "not harmful" for generally that is something we call all pretty much agree upon, OUTSIDE of using such terminology to reflect the ego again. Example if someone is offending your sense of self or you opinion, doesn't really mean that they're causing you "harm", all YOU need to do is cultivate a calm mind that is not disturbed by other people's words or so on, and you're not harmed in the least.

Judgement from ego usually results in causing harm, judgement to discern something that's causing harm or not generally doesn't.

Hope that helps

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Answer 4

"Christians" don't want to be judged for believing in weird things, like for example the talking snake in the Garden of Eden and such stories as the time Jesus calmly ascended into the clouds like a gentle balloon.

They are sensitive about their ridiculous beliefs and don't want to be judged for that. So they say "Judge not, that ye be not judged" and that's about the only time they quote Jesus, cause most of what Jesus said just goes right over their heads; so they mostly quote Paul -- who was a queer, by the way. But I digress. What was your question again?

Answer 5

Real Christians are not hung up on this. The right-wing cults (aka "fundamentalists" or "evangelicals") use this verse from the bible every time their unethical (and un-Christian) ideology and actions are challenged--as a way of avoinding accountibility.

Liverals (and genuine Christians) aren't hung up on it particullarly--but reference this frequently mostly because we get tired of the baseless accusations and smear tactics used by these cults and their leaders (e.g., Falwell, Robertson, Bush).

The actual meaning of this--often lost in teh hretoric--is that Christians are not to judge what the state of a person's soul vis a vis God is--because we can't know. But we can--and the Bible does instruct us to--evaluate and judge ACTIONS.

Answer 6

It skill I ought to attempt my terrific to understand; via fact i will choose no longer something i do no longer understand. each and every so often I try this nicely and that's a triumph for the two one people. each and every so often I try this nicely and that's something I wish i did no longer see. each and every so often I try this poorly and that's a humorous 'certainty'. each and every so often I try this poorly and make an @ss of myself. yet i'm continuously keen to evaluate an attraction. this is a similar technique I subject myself to - and take a inspect to choose the judgment handed on me besides. Going to heaven or hell does no longer relax interior my judgment no be counted what I make certain approximately something for others - i'm no longer even specific that it concerns how I choose myself. it is God's determination. MY judgments I question - I have faith God's judgments.

Answer 7

People want to be left in their own sin. It is disruptive to them to hear they may be possibly going to hell and do not want to change. Therefore, they feel they need to give a superficial oversimplified reminder of a verse from a book they dont believe in in an attempt to make us feel like we dont know our own Scriptures and that somehow our Scriptures agree with their evil lifestyle and philosophy of "not judging."

Well god judges, Jesus judges, and we are instructed as a church to judge, are we all evil?

Answer 8

You are right in that it's always the people who are the ultimate authority. For who shall judge God?

Answer 9

"Judge not lest ye be judged" works in the context of REASONABLE situations. We thought that was pretty self-explanatory. Yes honey, courts are supposed to judge. It's why they get our tax dollars.

Answer 10

Liberals always judge people. In fact, I have never seen a liberal make a statement without judging people.