Atheists, what is it you want to see?

Question

An end to all religions and sects? A world without belief in God? Fully scientific and secular human civilization? All religions apart from Islam have been neutralized and secularized. No country is officially Christian, Hindu, Jewish. Not India, not Israel, not Italy. Why shouldn't people's belief in God and religion stay as long as its bad effects are minimized? What proof is there that God doesn't exist, if there's no proof that God does? How about the disadvantages of an increasingly secular culture - The crime rates, the sex rates, the suicide rates, and the replacement of Western cultural and historical identity by foreign influences?

Answer 1

There is actually a studied referenced, I will look for the link, that discusses how countries with a higher percentage of the population embracing religion actually have higher crime rates. The USA has higher crime rates and is more religious, while other countries (can't think of any specifics but I will look) have a higher proportion of atheists and the crime rates are lower.

One more thing, you can NOT prove a negative. You can NOT prove the NON-existence of something. Theists ask this of atheists all the time, and it doesn't work. See people ask theists to prove the existence of God because you CAN prove an affirmative. But it doesn't work the other way around. It's logically impossible.

ADD: here is the link http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

Answer 2

Yes, an end to all religions and sects.
Yes, a world without belief in God.
Yes, fully scientific and secular human civilization.
It doesn't matter whether a country is "officially" of a religion, it's citizens are. Or is Italy not predominantly Roman Catholic?
How do you propose to minimize these "bad effects", when you are blaming all of society's ills on "an increasingly secular culture"?
I don't have to prove that God exists, you claim he does, so the burden of evidence is on you.
Don't blame crime, sex, suicide and all that on secularism, that is ridiculous. Your contry has a huge Christian population and its society is deteriorating. Canada is 13% atheist, has no guns and no death penalty, has abortion rights, and allows same-sex marriage, and our society is doing just fine, as are all other countries that have a large percentage of atheist citizens.

What I want to see is the end of blind faith and ignorance, and that's all that religion is.

Answer 3

Sure, God may still very well exist, but it is so unlikely that the religions are the 'real' God, that they might as well drop it.

Yeah, I noticed you made an exception for Islam.
Sometimes I wonder If people in America didn't have their religion, they would turn to violence and be criminals.
But then I realize it can't get any worse in America as far as violent crime is concerned than it already is....in the most Jesus freaked nation on earth..we are #1 in serial killers.

I have a hard time believing that ANY people in Government honestly believe in an organized religion God...

I think if the people got off the superstition and started thinking reasonably, we can bring the bar up intellectually....
There is a reason we are known as "stupid Americans" in Europe, and a lot of the world.... We really have to admit there is a lot of stupidity here and I believe the shunning of intellectualism and science is the biggest cause of this.
"god said so" is not a good thing to teach children... and instead of being brainwashed with useless drivel, why not instill in them something really useful in life?
Young adults in America can't find Cambodia on a map, or Germany, or Afghanistan, or Indonesia, or Russia, or Romania, or Israel, or Brazil....
but gosh darn it, they know about Jesus!

I'll tell you right now I'd exchange the years of useless religious information for an in depth explanation of Evolution, courses in how to invest your money, how to balance your check book, Geography, Astronomy, Geology, in my childhood any day. Think of how much smarter everyone would become if we were teaching factual useful things to children instead of beating them over the head with ancient superstition, supernatural events passed as fact and lies.

Answer 4

It is precisely the hateful, superstitious, anti-science, and threatening aspects of Christianity and Islam that are such a problem in the world. If every religion was as peaceful as say Jainism or Buddhism I don't think anyone would have a problem with them.

You should check actual official goverment crime statistics in the US by the way before you make such unwarranted claims. Crime rates have actually decreased dramatically in the US as people have become less religious. The most religious states have the most crime by far. The vast majority of people in prisons are Christians. Atheist population in prisons is incredibly small.

Answer 5

I don't care about that. But god needs to stay out of science class and out of my tax dollars.

The second part is an out right lie. There are plenty of countries that are de facto of a single religion even if they really work hard to say it isn't official. That doesn't change the reality.

Lack of evidence is proof that something doesn't exist. It isn't rational to believe in things without evidence because you would be stuck with hundreds of thousands of gods and every thing else that human imagination could come up with.

Look it up-it is easy to find. Atheists are the most under represented group in prison populations. We are only about 0.2% in prison and about 5-15% out. There is no evidence that there would be an increase in crime. In fact the evidence is the opposite is true.

Answer 6

A world without superstition? Yes.
A world without religious hatreds? Yes.
A world ruled by science, logic, reason, and the rule of law rather than fairy tales? Yes.
There is no legitimate correlation between religious faith and crime rates or incidence of suicides. The religionists can make up all the false statistics they want; the real statistics are public record, for anyone to read.
Sex without guilt? I'm there.
Sex education based on the premise that sex is normal, healthy and good for us? You bet.
Sex education that includes proper information about contraception and disease prevention? We REALLY need this.
I invite you to join the rest of us in the 21st Century. The view from up here is great.

Answer 7

The EU is secular -the US is not. Name one social problem that exists in Europe that doesn't exist in the US? Religion is nothing and contributes nothing to society. It needs to be rooted out and consigned to the history books. Christianity is a foreign influence-it embodies a set of values that ordinary, hard working westerners should treat with contempt.

Answer 8

yes proof is what i am looking for. i am not trying to get rid of religion or discount what you believe. but dont tell me this or that is your proof where there is none. there are many good reasons for many religions and some very bad reasons for some. words written on an event 2000 years ago does not make it proof. its proof to you and what you believe, which is great for you. its what your parents believe and now you believe. quoting from a bible means nothing to me but you know the quote. it still does not solve the problem of proof. and today as even in the past i see the biggest driving force of most religions is money.

Answer 9

I don't think most people who don't believe care about any of that.

Yawn, another question attacking atheists.

I'm a Christian, but why can't you just respect the fact that they don't believe. Aren't you just as guilty as some of them then?

Answer 10

sounds ok no holy wars crime rates will stay the same the are more christians in jale than atheists a far better world