Why is everybody now a days so proud of having a so called mind disease called "mental illness"?

Question

Is this part of the story of the land of mental illness or make believe? How do we stop this story that is going around? Do some people need to believe that they have this illness and why? Are the ones that are posting all the information about these so called diseases plants? Is it their mission in life to get more people to believe in the story too?

NAMI is more then 50% funded by the drug companies to promote this illness, the lies are in the textbooks, I have proof that there is no mental illness. Medical feild or not, not half the country has a mental illness or are we all just crazy these days? If you work in the medical feild you get lots of perks for promoting the so called illness too don't you it is your job!

For a disease to be a real disease it must have some real valid and scientific medical markers such as lessions, growths or tumors, infections like syphyllis and also drug damage, there has to be some way to measure it there is not. these so called medications are harmful and a problem to society.

It is bad when a person actually does have a real brain problem and they can't get the treatment that they actually need isn't it? For some they could die from it, like a person with a brain tumor, or epilepsy which I am learning more about.

If you want to know just how ignorant I am go to this link: http://home.earthlink.net/~people-of-cou...

Sorry about that first link I actually copied it from someplace and this didn't take it let me try this http://home.earthlink.net/~people-of-courage/

"You actually cited a user created page? In that case, I'll declare being a nazi the greatest thing in the world and make a site of my own saying that. It has to be true if I have a website about it, right?"

thank you for checking it out, that site has been in existance for three years and it also has links to factual information in it, if you want to know what my factual credentials are then you might have to click on that link that talks about who I am and what my professional credentials are, so no it is not just a user created link everyone that does a website is a user of it and creates it themselves, that should not discount the value and credibility of anything, it is there it is your choice to check the info out or not?

"Unfortunately, people like yourself are easily brainwashed." It's unfortunate that so many people in our world today hold this position and then say that they are the ones that have this disease, isn't this suppose to be a disease that makes it so that you can't think and act rationally in most cases, and are not aware of this, and one that affects your ability to think and live and function in a normal way? I don't think I want people to believe this stuff about me, like it is being promoted. Yes, I have had more then my fair share of difficulties in life and I have mostly overcome them. Yes, I am a recovered drug user and don't want more of this pushed on me, so isn't it actually the people that are trying to promote this and deny that they are proud of having these diseases the ones that are being easily brainwashed? I think it is wrong and harmful and one of these days it just must stop!

Did you learn this propaganda from NAMI? They know nothing either, I have proof of it. " you are grossly misguided and obviously are not aware of the scientific facts related to mental illness". Ask them why they can't answer the hunger strike questions? Then if one sees themselves as mentally ill doesn't that like I said mean that they are unable to think or act rationally? That they are not aware of their own disease and that is why they deserve to be coercively and forcibly treated against their own will at times? That they should have no right to integrity over their own person according to how others see them? That their feelings are unreal and abnormal? Why would one be proud of that? If it is a brain disease, then why don't or can't they find a cure for it? The treatments are no cure they just numb up the persons mind some times people use them in illegal ways just for that purpose because they like it and then they go to jail for it, why?

Mental health "is" subjective so is this "mental illness", it is not accurate to say that "labeled" people's brains look differently on any scans consistently. These scans are variable from one time to the next, from one person to the next, over tests over time, they have documented this in research. Asking questions and answering them is the best way to educate and correct the myths out there. Not defensive, corrective of the propaganda, one can not go any place anymore without this kind of assessment and treatment being promoted or pushed on them or someone, it is called "peer" pressure to accept this disease so people can fit in. It is pushed that people have this " mental illness" or "disease" model of the brain because some organizations are so prominent in society now that it is taking over. Is it better to keep this going? I think not. Yes, I am okay, I don't think others are okay with me telling the truth about this at times. What is a geranium?

We all should feel offended when good "mental health" is turned into "mental illness" for profit. The fact is there is no valid and reliable medical science for anyone to be called names even "mentally ill", not you, not me, not the girl or boy next door, not anyone. Feeling sorry for one self at times is okay, it is expression of emotion. Some times it is a joke, but in reality people are not allowed to have a full range of expression or emotion anymore even if they are not hurting them self or anyone else unless they are said to be having a "mind disease" that they may not even realize that they have, one that needs "treatments". Here is a link to a comic that you all might want to check out: http://www.newstarget.com/021553.html this has to stop so that things can change. So that the real needs, problems, and issues in our world can be addressed and people will stop judging half our world as "mentally ill" for their profit, promotion, or benefit.

Answer 1

cmon..its a victimless society...thanks to the liberals you can claim mental illness and get disability and often relief from prosecution of a crime. its never the individuals own fault..its always society. you stop this by calling the clinton ..it takes a village...philosophy what it is...GARBAGE. people need to take responsibility for their own actions and mental illness needs to be a more defined status with less perks for a person to attempt to obtain.

Answer 2

You actually cited a user created page? In that case, I'll declare being a nazi the greatest thing in the world and make a site of my own saying that. It has to be true if I have a website about it, right?

I am bipolar and I have extreme panic attacks. When I have them, they are extremely potent to say the least. I actually pass out. Yes, it is disruptive in a lot of ways. I cannot drive or live a normal life right now because they are so bad. Is it permanent? No, it's probably not. Anxiety is caused by triggers within the brain. Brain = mentality.

If someone was seeing things, hell I'd consider that disruptive. I knew a lady at a mental hospital who thought her house was burned down and her family was killed. She didn't have a house and her family was fine. She wouldn't sleep very well because she was frightened the people who killed her family would kill her. It's all in her mind, therefore a mentality issue. And that's not disrupting her life as any other illness would?!?

This website you site is a load of rubbish. It's some people spouting on about things they cannot understand or comprehend. Unfortunately, people like yourself are easily brainwashed.

Answer 3

Mental illnesses are real .Of course doctors are not infallable and do sometimes misdiagnose , as they can with any illness .Years and years ago doctors didnt know anything about tumors or cancers but did that mean they weren't real ? No it just meant that the knowledge wasnt around to understand and treat them . I think the same can be said about mental illness .It is something we dont fully understand yet, but will in the future ,as medical science fully developes in that field .
I agree that it is hard to understand if one has never gone thru it OR seen it effect a loved one .
I really dont think most people who have a mental illness are proud of it . I think it is more that they are just vocalising what ails them .And sometimes they dont have any control over what they say or do.

Info about lack of understanding :
Sometimes people are scared of what they can not see ,feel or understand and to a point that is a natural reaction .To be wary of the unknown is normal .
But I believe an open mind is the key here . Be open minded enough to say " well maybe it is possible to be sick in this way " . And to be able to say " just because I don't agree with it doesn't necessarily make it wrong ( or maybe you could put the word hogwash there) " .
I kinda wonder if the people who scream the most about something like this are maybe the ones who are the most scared of it ???

Answer 4

I have lived with depression all of my life, I don't know if I'm "proud of it" but I'm not ashamed of it either. Yes, doctors do get perks from prescribing psychiatric drugs but they get the same perks for other drugs too. Doctors make a lot of money, no doubt about that. I do agree that mental health is a pretty subjective thing, but a person with Schizophrenia's brain looks different on a PET scan than the brain of a person who doesn't have Schizophrenia. You are writing a lot, and you seem to be awfully defensive when anyone disagrees with you. Are you okay? By the way, I am a geranium.

I used to work at a state mental hospital; I have seen a lot of psychotic people who say they are God and all kinds of goofy stuff. I have seen people eat their own feces and drink their own urine. We had one woman who wrapped up pieces of her own poop in handkerchiefs and called them her "babies." I don't think you would have the same attitude if you have worked in a mental hospital as I have have. Even if you thought they were all faking, you'd be glad they were there instead of living with you. A geranium is a plant.

Answer 5

Oh, my. So many things wrong with your "question" more like "attack". I agree that drug coimpanies use doctors who are only taught from a limited view point to push their wares.
Your quote of "I have proof that there is no mental illness" is curious, disturbing and makes me think that you may have fallen prey to different propaganda.
I don't think people are proud of it but to put a name to something that haunts your everyday existance helps you to undersand it better and have better control of it insdead of the other way around. Being open about it overcomes shame and allows others to learn, become more tolerant and not feel so bad about any issues they or their family might have.
I would seriously love to discuss this.

Answer 6

you are ignorant, I guess this just irks me because I have relatives that believe the same as you. People aren't proud of being ill. And how do you explain hearing voices , depressions so bad you can't get out of bed, anorexia, bulimia, Do you really believe people want to be paranoid, afraid and confused? Its more than that though. What about suicide? Why do people commit suicide are they mentally fit? Whats wrong with you? Someone who cares? About what , making people feel bad.
oh **** it maybe im ignorant, i wish i was dead.

Answer 7

well i feel offended noone including me is proud of a mental illness and having one its called acceptance and going to treatment and counseling and taken medications if needed be feeling sorry for ourselves and want a pity trip doesnt solve and change and make things better and the condition improve

Answer 8

For someone who thinks of themselves as so well informed, you are grossly misguided and obviously are not aware of the scientific facts related to mental illness.

Answer 9

You need more education honey. Unfortunately, there are several mental illnesses out there. People do not want them and they do not choose to have them. Depression is a mental illness.
Some people cannot act it out or fake it. Some claim it as to get out of things yes, as some people will, but it is a real thing too. Read this website on it. Keep your mind open. I work in the medical field and have done so for 17 years. It is real.
http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Inform_Yourself/About_Mental_Illness/About_Mental_Illness.htm
What is Mental Illness: Mental Illness Facts
Mental illnesses are medical conditions that disrupt a person’s thinking, feeling, mood, ability to relate to others, and daily functioning. Just as diabetes is a disorder of the pancreas, mental illnesses are medical conditions that often result in a diminished capacity for coping with the ordinary demands of life.

Serious mental illnesses include major depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), panic disorder, post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), and borderline personality disorder. The good news about mental illness is that recovery is possible.

Mental illnesses can affect persons of any age, race, religion, or income. Mental illnesses are not the result of personal weakness, lack of character, or poor upbringing. Mental illnesses are treatable. Most people diagnosed with a serious mental illness can experience relief from their symptoms by actively participating in an individual treatment plan.

In addition to medication treatment, psychosocial treatment such as cognitive behavioral therapy, interpersonal therapy, peer support groups, and other community services can also be components of a treatment plan and that assist with recovery. The availability of transportation, diet, exercise, sleep, friends, and meaningful paid or volunteer activities contribute to overall health and wellness, including mental illness recovery.

Here are some important facts about mental illness and recovery:

Mental illnesses are biologically based brain disorders. They cannot be overcome through "will power" and are not related to a person's "character" or intelligence.
Mental disorders fall along a continuum of severity. Even though mental disorders are widespread in the population, the main burden of illness is concentrated in a much smaller proportion — about 6 percent, or 1 in 17 Americans — who suffer from a serious mental illness. It is estimated that mental illness affects 1 in 5 families in America.
The World Health Organization has reported that four of the 10 leading causes of disability in the US and other developed countries are mental disorders. By 2020, Major Depressive illness will be the leading cause of disability in the world for women and children.
Mental illnesses usually strike individuals in the prime of their lives, often during adolescence and young adulthood. All ages are susceptible, but the young and the old are especially vulnerable.
Without treatment the consequences of mental illness for the individual and society are staggering: unnecessary disability, unemployment, substance abuse, homelessness, inappropriate incarceration, suicide and wasted lives; The economic cost of untreated mental illness is more than 100 billion dollars each year in the United States.
The best treatments for serious mental illnesses today are highly effective; between 70 and 90 percent of individuals have significant reduction of symptoms and improved quality of life with a combination of pharmacological and psychosocial treatments and supports.
With appropriate effective medication and a wide range of services tailored to their needs, most people who live with serious mental illnesses can significantly reduce the impact of their illness and find a satisfying measure of achievement and independence. A key concept is to develop expertise in developing strategies to manage the illness process.
Early identification and treatment is of vital importance; By ensuring access to the treatment and recovery supports that are proven effective, recovery is accelerated and the further harm related to the course of illness is minimized.
Stigma erodes confidence that mental disorders are real, treatable health conditions. We have allowed stigma and a now unwarranted sense of hopelessness to erect attitudinal, structural and financial barriers to effective treatment and recovery. It is time to take these barriers down.

Answer 10

i don't think that people are proud of having a mental illness, i think they are relieved that thier illness is publicised enough that we can have some sort of understanding.