prime example of irresponsible owner?

Question

i was over the field yesterday, with my border collie and my 8 yr old son when we met a women with a very BIG doberman,anyway got to talking dogs started to play etc (both dogs off lead)., BUT when my son went to smooth the doberman the owner asked him not to because the dog hates children (ok dogs have thier dislikes), but when i asked the owner why she did not have muzzle on the dog obviously knowing children are a problem for him she got on her high horse and walked away. Now i love to see dogs having off the lead exercise but if you know your dog has a problem surely prevention is better than cure. if her dog attacked a child who should be put to sleep the owner or the dog. I know what i think!!!

shyte for brains YOU ARE A SICKO

i probebly would not like it roxy but i would NOT tear the child apart..

actually my children do not maul any animal, they have been brought up to respect all animals but not to fear them, i just believe that if you are fully aware that your dog has a dislike for children they should not be allowed to roam freely without a muzzle.

well everyone has thier own views, and i know all dogs can turn but if my dog had an obvious dislike of children, other dogs or anybody else i would never let him out without a muzzle for his sake as much as for other peoples sake.

Answer 1

I agree with you and have had similar experiences in local parks. Just another example of the generally poor state of standards in society.

Answer 2

There's lots of good points beig made here - mainly kids, and adults should ask permission before stroking a strange dog. This is just common sense. My mom's last collie was a brilliant dog, but like a lot of collies was a bit scared of kids. She wasn't ever muzzled as when off the lead, if there were kids around then she was called back, and walked to heel until the kids were gone. If you are aware of a dog's dislike, and don't allow children to stroke the dog, and have control of the dog, then it doesn't need to be muzzled. If the dog ran to every kid being agressive then yes it should be muzzeled, but it sound like this dog is unsure of kids, and so is more unpredicatble than other dogs, rather than being activly aggressive.

I think the main point coming out of most of these answers is that anyone, kids or adults, should ask the owner before stroking an unknown dog, this will prevent any accidents. Asking permission to stroke a dog does not mean that you have to be scared of dogs - you simply need to be sensible and recognise that not all dogs like strange people touching them.

Answer 3

ANY dog or animal can take a turn when you least expect it no matter how docile it seems at times. They are animals after all. But..if you especially know that your dog doesnt like children or people particularly then it should stay on the lead in public or have a muzzle. I have chiildren too and I have contstantly explained that just because one animal is nice they all arent. When you approach a new dog also,it is wise both for safety reasons and also to be polite by asking someone first if it is ok to pet the dog or animal to begin with.

Answer 4

I really don't blame the woman for walking away.I would'nt have been that nice.
The woman gave you fair warning the dog did'nt care for children you and your son should have been a little more respectful and considerate to the woman and the dog.
Seeing an animal gives no one the right to touch it if it does'nt belong to you!
How would you have liked it if people walked up to your son in a grocery store and started "smoothing"him?You would'nt.But you see a strange dog and automatically you think the dog and owner are there for your enjoyment and it's o.k. to do as you will as if you were at a petting zoo.
I have this happen all the time with my 2 german shepherds.They are MY property.I did'nt buy them and put all the time and effort into training and pay a fortune to a vet so everyone else could enjoy and handle them at will and I'm certain the owner of the Dobie feels the same way.
So shame on you and who are you to be offended by her comments or actions?
And why do you feel that dog should have been muzzled anyway?Does'nt the dog have the right to enjoy a romp in a field like your dog did?Obviously the dog did'nt go out of his way to bite anyone but any dog can and will at any time.Should all dogs wear muzzles if there's a possibility of coming across someone or thing the poor dog feels it has to defend itself from or is it only certain dogs that your son feels the need to touch at will who should wear one?
You should be teaching your son to never touch an animal unless he asks BEFORE he reaches for it.

Answer 5

You are right. I am a dog lover and believethat it is up to the owner to control their pets.
She especially shouldnt have had the dog without a lead on! How did she know there wasnt a child round the corner that the dog would bite when her back was turned?
And when she stopped to talk to you and your child she should have put the dog on its lead straight away.
Or as you say, a muzzle, which would have been a better all round option.
One day her dog probably will bite someone and she will have wished she had listened to you. Just be thankful it wasnt your child.

Answer 6

I'm sorry but you are partially to blame here. You have not trained your son never to touch strange dogs. I used to be driven nuts by people who allow their children just to walk up to my dogs and try to pet them. My dogs don't live near children, I have no idea how they will react with strange children mauling them so I always tell them not to touch as the dog doesn't like children. Should every dog owner muzzle their dog simply because you cannot tell your child to leave strange dogs alone?
We seem to live in a blame culture where everyone else is to blame and nobody feels the need to act in a responsible manner. If a child runs into the road and gets hit by a car, the driver is blamed, if a child goes up to a strange dog and starts stroking it, and the dog growls, the dog or owner is blamed. Start behaving like a responsible parent and teach your child that he should not touch strange dogs without first asking permission off the dog owner.

Answer 7

She should have a muzzle on the dog especially running loose around children. She is being irresponsible. if a child got attacked its the owners fault.She knows her dog does not like kids. Put her down.I always watch my dog around children. He loves them just in case i supervise.

Answer 8

The simple answer is often a compromise.
You rightly say the dog needs exercise off the lead and especially a Doberman.Keeping it restrained at all times will only make its temperament worse.
What she should do is to exercise the dog off the lead either early morning or late evening when children are not around .
I have a retriever who whilst not in the slightest bit vicious will run off and jump up at people or will bother smaller /older dogs with his exuberance to play.So I take him out off the lead at the times when others aren't around.
Again she might have just been cautious in her warning to you.
It may not have been a vicious dog but unpredictable with the potential to do harm.Give her credit for that anyway.her warning was 'prevention' and she was there to supervise the dog

Answer 9

I have a large GSD but I prefer to own a ferocious Rottweiler to deal with the people you mention. If you cannot control your dog, on the leash, off you go and disappear. Some dogs have more manner than their owner.

Answer 10

As a father of 2 small children who are growing up around dogs and the owner of a working dog, I feel your pain. However, I have instituted a "no petting" policy with all of my dogs over the last 20 years. That means I will NOT allow anyone to touch my dogs, other then immediate family members. This way I do not have to worry about people touching or not or getting bitten or licked to death. Both of my kids love dogs to death, but, they know not to run up to a strange dog and touch it. They know we do not touch other people's dogs. We can admire from the distance, but that is it. It just makes things easier for all parties involved.

Answer 11

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