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If God made Adam perfect, did he make Eve perfect as well?

ALSO.. if we were originally flawless, but fell out of grace, wouldn't there be a way to reverse it? They say no one is perfect, even no matter how hard we try. In those terms I don't think that's fair to the generations following Adam. We're just deserving the sins of our fathers.

2007-01-27 09:12:17 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Yes it is entirely reversible...by one man Adam came sin and death and by one man Jesus came salvation and eternal life.

2007-01-27 09:20:52 · answer #1 · answered by djmantx 7 · 8 0

I actually think this is a very good question. Let me see if I can manage to properly articulate my thoughts on this.

In whatever measure Adam was perfect, Eve would have been also. It's like taking a bit from a plant and replanting it. It's the same kind of plant- the two plants might be different but on a genetic level the same. It's not like making a xerox of a document where the quality gets worse the more you copy it.

Sorry for the long winded answer, but I feel strongly about it;)

The general idea is that we don't NEED to reverse the fall from grace, because God already pretty much knew when He made Adam and Eve that they had the capacity for imperfection, and that the choice was theirs. I think we tend to misinterpret the idea of 'perfect'. The concept we seem to harbour is an illogical and impractical state of affairs- I think that with this kind perfection what is implied is more of a lack of the judegemtn we have now. We have such a picture for perfection nowadays; everyone should be thin, pretty, financially stable, in a good relationship etc. that we label things imperfect based on those standards (maybe not those specific ones, but by and large those KINDS of standards) We miss the inherent value in things that actually count. Adam and Eve were perfect because they had no concept of sin. To them everything was beautiful, there was no judgement or worries about what is the right or wrong thing to be- they were like children. Once innocence is lost, it's pretty much gone.
Because of their choice it's true that we are aware of good/bad and that makes us 'imperfect', but we still ultimately have the choice between good and bad. That's what perfect/imperfect boils down to- the choices we make. Adam and Eve were given a choice, and although theirs might have been slightly more profound than ours, we still have the same choice they do, and we start with as clean a slate.

as for the physical imperfections, I think it's largely to do with our physical lifestyles, environments and everyday wear and tear. Maybe if we had stayed in Eden we would have been more comfortable, but then our lifestyles would have been radically different with no technology, clothes, organic foods, little society etc. It's all conditioning.

2007-01-27 18:23:22 · answer #2 · answered by Felix Q 3 · 0 1

Historically we all are passed down the sins of our forefathers. For instance Slavery and absence of civil rights for women and minorities are still a hot topic even though Slavery was abolished in the 1800's and Equal rights amendments have been instituted, the fact that people treated people badly many years before many of us were born is still weighing heavily on us now. Forgiveness is not an easy thing. God knows we will sin, but he will forgive us for our sins. As he would like us to do to others. God thought he made Adam flawless, but he was designed with freewill and succumbed to temptation. Temptation has been inherently human ever since. God realized that right away.

2007-01-27 17:32:50 · answer #3 · answered by pughugger 2 · 0 0

Yes, I think he made Eve perfect, until she ate the apple she wasn't supposed to.

I don't think there's a way to reverse being perfect. Because you can't just reverse things that God does. That's like making the death of Jesus on the cross fake, like erasing it out of history. Its just not possible. Eve ate the apple she wasn't supposed to, and God had made it clear that she shouldn't, but she did.

I think being imperfect is kind of a good thing. I'm not saying that sin is good but, when we sin, and ask for forgiveness of our sins,we get closer to God. And we get closer to God when we resist temptation and stuff. Am I making any sense? Because if we were perfect we wouldn't be trying to get closer to God, it would just come naturally.

2007-01-27 17:20:35 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

God did make Eve perfect as well. But he gave her and Adam free will to decide to follow Him or not. He wanted his creation to love him by will, not by force. Before Eve ate the apple and gave it to adam, they were considered flawless. They fell from grace once they allowed satan to tempt them and coerce them into questioning God. To restore grace, Jesus came to the earth and died for our sins, putting us back in good stead with the Lord.
As far as generations following Adam, many of us do inherit the sins of our fathers. We see the evidence of that sin in our crumbling society. But, with free will, we can still choose to lift this generational curse by accepting salvation!

2007-01-27 17:22:34 · answer #5 · answered by Gayle 4 · 0 0

Both Adam and Eve were made perfect.
They had to make an effort to disobey.
Sadly they made that effort.
Yes, there is a way to reverse it.
1 Corinthians 15:22 says
"For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive."
Jesus corrects the unfairness.

2007-01-27 17:25:12 · answer #6 · answered by Uncle Thesis 7 · 2 1

lets say you've been baking bread in a baking tray written "bread" what does it look like when it comes out. I'm sure you'll find that it'll will be written "bread" on both side. lets hope you understood that because if you didn't there is no point in you reading what I've got to say now. Now, that's what it's like for us yes we are born sinners but it's up to us to make things right between us and God. we are like bread being baked in a tray written "bread" that's why i said we're born sinners. no one can be perfect and we'll never be, but God knows that and he appreciates it when we try our best to make him happy. that's how we gain blessings. I truly hope you understood that because i know it doesn't make a lot of sense if you are not already a practising christian or a christian. and before i go i just wanted to say be a God pleaser not a person pleaser because people will desert you but God will always be by your side

peace

2007-01-27 17:29:18 · answer #7 · answered by sasha 4 · 0 0

Original sin is the term we use to describe mankind’s first transgression – Adam’s fall. It is also the term we use to describe the consequences or effects of that fall. For Adam, original sin was a personal, actual sin. For us, it’s an impersonal sin, not an actual sin. But here we distinguish; we do not separate, because it’s all of a piece. There is a bond that unites sin in all its forms.

When teachers discuss the mystery of original sin, they often use the metaphor of a “stain on the soul”. But that’s only a metaphor. Sin isn’t essentially a stain; it isn’t a spiritual substance. It isn’t a thing at all. It is, rather, the lack of something, the absence of something, namely sanctifying grace. The indwelling life of the Trinity was evacuated from human nature by Adam’s sin. That’s what original sin is. We have to get at it by explaining what it isn’t. It’s the absence of something necessary for human beings to reach their divinely appointed end. The absence of sanctifying grace certainly does plunge us into darkness and blindness and death.

But it’s critically important for us to recognize that original sin is not something that’s transmitted biologically or psychologically. Yet at the same time we can speak of original sin as being something hereditary.

Original sin is the hereditary but impersonal fault of Adam’s descendants: One man’s trespass led to condemnation for all men…By one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, who have sinned in him. (Rom 5:18-19)

The mystery, of course, is how we sinned in Adam. We sinned in Adam, in a sense, because there is a mystical solidarity we share with him, based upon two realities: biologically, we’re his descendants; and theologically, he’s our covenant head. As our father, he is our representative in making the covenant with God. Since he broke the covenant, we, his progeny, inherit the consequences. Consider an analogy from human relations: If I mismanaged my business affairs and ended by declaring bankruptcy before passing my estate to my sons and daughter, my creditors could pursue my children, now rendered debtors through our family bond.

In effect, original sin means the loss of sanctifying grace and, therefore, the loss of eternal life. The soul is immortal, and people in hell will live everlastingly, though miserably. Eternal life is more than everlasting. It is God’s life, divine life. God alone is eternal because He utterly transcends time. So when we speak of eternal life, we are talking about sharing in the very being and communion of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. And that is what humanity lost through original sin.

2007-01-27 17:24:22 · answer #8 · answered by Br. Dymphna S.F.O 4 · 0 0

I would really like to know where the Bible says Adam was made perfect.

2007-01-27 17:16:06 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Adam and Eve were not made perfect. Human beings were not created in a static state - they were made with the potential for perfection, and were given the tools to attain that perfection.

2007-01-27 17:16:10 · answer #10 · answered by NONAME 7 · 1 2

it doesn't make sense does it? one would think a just God would give every human a perfect start and then 'test' their loylty individually ,but he didn't! its like asking you to pay off your dad's credit card debt. One would assume its a very easy thing for almight God to restore the perfect human buy just click a finger

2007-01-27 17:20:56 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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