Book of Revelation and Deuteronomy 4.2?

Question

That God will punish anyone who adds to or takes away from the words of this book. All Christians I meant be they Protestant or Catholic say that because of this Islam is wrong as the Qur'an comes after this passage.
Yet when that passage was written the bible as we know it today hadn't even been compiled so how can Christians say it proves Islam is wrong.
This kind of passage is also elsewhere in the bible see Deuteronomy 4.2. So does that mean all the words of the bible after Deuteronomy 4.2 after wrong and those who wrote them are going to be punished by God?
Could it be that only prophets who speak Gods words can add to them and not men.

Answer 1

The canonized bible was assembled from an assortment of writings. At the end of Revelation and in Deuteronomy, there are the passages about adding to or subtracting from the books. I think that they are applied only to the book of Revelation and Deuteronomy.

That being said, lets take a look at the Koran. It was written by one man over the course of his life. When you read certain passages of the Koran, you see how Mohammed dealt with the Christian faith. He said that Jesus was never crucified and never rose from the dead.

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4/157 And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of GOD. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him-they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him.

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This passage, in and of itself (in addition to other areas of the Koran that will not be posted here) is enough to invalidate the entire Koran as holy scripture since it contradicts the entire ministry of Jesus. It is therefore, not of God and Mohammed was not a holy prophet.

Why? Without the resurection, the ministry of Jesus is moot.

So, I would not put my faith in the Koran as Mr. Rushdie was right - they are Satanic Verses.

Answer 2

Wrong wrong wrong! First of all get real on the idea that the Bible wasn't compiled before Islam. The Bible was accepted by the end of the first century. Now Catholics didn't accept it until 325 officially but the 27 books that we accept today were widely accepted by the end of John's life before 100 ad. Also read Deut 4:2 "You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you." In English the phrase "I am commanding you" is in the present tense, meaning that He was still writing them, the words in Revelation 22 are past tense meaning the words were finished.

Answer 3

I am currently reading a book called Misquoting Jesus. It's a book about the New Testament and how past scholars in reading ancient manuscripts and rewriting them in the current langauge of the day, may have left things out or changed the meaning of some passages we find in the Bible today. I just started the book, so I have not gotten really into it, but the man who wrote the book is a Biblical scholar, who went to Bible colleges for his degrees and training, so he is a religious man. But he does show that the Bible has probably been changed with each interpretation and translation of the Bible. So whos religious book is really correct? Right now, who knows.

Answer 4

It is unbelievable to me how people get simple verses and make an entire religiion out of them. When God said in those verses that He wants nothing added to the Scripture, and He wants nothing taken from the Scriptures, He means exactly that.
He wasn't speaking of the Quran; He wasn't speaking of another religions text - He was speaking of the one you are reading.
Thats it. If you had lets say a legal document and it is a very important document - and you are handing it over to be read by a whole lot of people - Wouldn't you tell them, hey don't mess with the papers? Don't add anything, and don't delete anything.
Of course you would. God doesn't want mans grubby little hands changing things in our Scriptures. Every single thing that man touches he screws up. So man is to keep off them as far as changes go.
These verses are not some kind of proclaimation that Islam is wrong or anything else. People are reading whatever they want into a verse and then spitting it out without one thread of Bible knowledge. Anybody who says these things to you, I can tell you that if the truth of the Word of God jumped up and bit them on the ***, they wouldn't know it. Bible illiteracy at its height.

Answer 5

Friend you are not looking at someone revising a bible just as long as it has the same revelation, Therefore if any man Takes away from the Prophecies of these sayings, & That Prophecies is True Revelation, Then do not take awy from the true reveltory meaning, did you know that thee is things that is not even written in the bible but yet they will be a part o the bible, Daniel & John the Revelator saw things & was about to write & God said write them not, for in the last days he will reveal it, to who? the world, NO. ONLY TO HIS BRIDE.

Answer 6

The concept of religious finality is a man-made one. No religion is final. There is no such thing as a last prophet. Every doctrine that claims one Prophet is the sole hope for salvation on the planet is wrong.

In reality, religion is a process of divine revelation from God to mankind. Each and every Prophet of God is the first and the last, the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the Seal of the Prophets and Forerunner of all that are to come.

Answer 7

The answer to your question is pretty simple.

Before I answer your question, you have to realise that prophets were not just men but were also ordinary men as you and I. The only difference is that prophets were chosen at specific times to complete the word of God, that does not mean we are less than them, but certainly they have something to boast about which is the prophecy they carried out on behalf of God.

In the book of second Peter chapter 1, he said:" Above all, you must realize that no prophecy in scripture ever came from the prophet's own understading or from human initiative. No, those prophets were moved by the Holy Spirit, and they spoke from God". 2Pe 1:20-21

God has solemnly warned twice.
How come do we accept everything after De 4:2? Simple.

God warned the first time against people who will add or remove so as he wish for nobody to perish due to committing this great sin. This doesnot eliminate prophets sent by God from continuing writing the scriptures after De!! It only eliminates people who pretend to be prophets and are not sent by God.

He warned again in the second time in Rev so as to ensure that God's word is now complete.
Since God's word is complete, nobody can ever add to the word of God anymore. The reason is that both verses appear in De & Rev is to prove that God Jehovah is the same as God Jesus and to warn against people who will add or remove from this book at any period of time whether before the bible was completed or after it was completely written.

What happens if somebody add to the bible? Nothing he adds to himself all the plagues mentioned in the book of Revelation as described in the last part of Chapter 22.

The evidence of my words can be proven from 2 Peter as described above.

How to discern false prophets, that's another question. I will be glad to answer it, when you pose the question.

Answer 8

There are three primary viewpoints on the identity of the two witnesses in Revelation 11:3-12: (1) Moses and Elijah, (2) Enoch and Elijah, (3) two unknown believers whom God calls to be His witnesses in the end times. (1) Moses and Elijah are seen as possibilities for the two witnesses due to the witnesses' power to turn water into blood (Revelation 11:6), which Moses is known for (Exodus chapter 7), and their power to destroy people with fire (Revelation 11:5), which Elijah is known for (2 Kings chapter 1). Also giving strength to this view is the fact that Moses and Elijah appeared with Jesus at the transfiguration (Matthew 17:3-4). Further, Jewish tradition expected Moses and Elijah to return in the future. Malachi 4:5 predicted the return of Elijah, and the Jews believed that God’s promise to raise up a prophet like Moses (Deuteronomy 18:15, 18) necessitated his return. (2) Enoch and Elijah are seen as possibilities for the two witnesses because they are the two individuals whom God has taken to heaven apart from experiencing death (Genesis 5:23; 2 Kings 2:11). The fact that neither Enoch or Elijah have experienced death seems to qualify them to experience death and resurrection, as the two witnesses experience (Revelation 11:7-12). Proponents of this view claim that Hebrews 9:27 (all men die once) disqualifies Moses from being one of the two witnesses, as Moses has died once already (Deuteronomy 34:5). However, there are several others in the Bible who died twice—e.g., Lazarus, Dorcas, and the daughter of the synagogue ruler—so there is really no reason why Moses should be eliminated on this basis. View (3) essentially argues that Revelation chapter 11 does not attach any famous identity to the two witnesses. If their identities were Moses and Elijah, or Enoch and Elijah, why would Scripture be silent about this? God is perfectly capable of taking two "ordinary" believers and enabling them to perform the same signs and wonders that Moses and Elijah did. There is nothing in Revelation 11 that requires us to assume a "famous" identity for the two witnesses.

Answer 9

You're a smart one you are. I bet you know the real answer!

Prophets who speak God's words will never be in question.

What I have a problem with, after looking at the list of questions and some of your answers that you post, is that you like to incite people.

I find you lack any spirituality and have missed the true gifts of Christianity. How sad you must be.

Answer 10

Deuteronomy 4:2 refers to adding or subtracting from the laws of Moses. Revelation 22:19 Refers to the book of Revelation. I think the Koran as an addition is offensive for entirely different reasons. The denial of the divinitity of Christ....yadda yadda yadda