Just wondering. I found this passage were Lot is offering in virgin daugthers to a crowd of Bi males. just a note - know=have sex with (don't believe me, look it up in your version)
Genesis 19:5-8
And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. Lot went out to the men at the entrance, shut the door after him, and said, "I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Behold, I have two daughters who have not known any man. Let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please.
Everyone I ask here looks at me like I am crazy.
2007-01-26
20:08:40
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Thanks for responding :)
Petyado - I understand the context surrounding the passage, but I one sin less than the other. Is an homosexual act worse than premartial sex. I understand that he did not want the crowd to rape the angels, offering your daugthers to be rape seems to me to be just as sinful.
Alexandra - thanks I'll know where to start my reading thanks :)
Thanks everybody :)
2007-01-26
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Think about the context from Genesis. Lot had two angels as guests sent from God. He had to defend them. Don't use this verse as one which agrees with premarital sex. There are many other verses which say it's wrong having sexual relations before marriage.
"Flee from fornication. Every other sin that a man may commit is outside his body, but he that practices fornication is sinning against his own body."(1Corinthians 6:18) Just what does that mean? The Greek word translated “fornication” is not restricted to sexual intercourse but includes a variety of lewd acts.
"For I am jealous over YOU with a godly jealousy, for I personally promised YOU in marriage to one husband that I might present YOU as a chaste virgin to the Christ. But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, YOUR minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ."(2Corinthians 11:2,3)
"Deaden, therefore, YOUR body members that are upon the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry."(Colossians 3:5)
"Let fornication and uncleanness of every sort or greediness not even be mentioned among YOU, just as it befits holy people."(Ephesians 5:3)
The Greek word 'porneia' covers a broad meaning. Bauer, p. 693, says under the word 'porneia' that it means “prostitution, unchastity, fornication, of every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse.”
Commenting on Jesus’ words in Mt 5:32 and 19:9, TDNT, Vol. VI, p. 592, says that “πορνεία [porneia] refers to extra-marital intercourse.” Therefore, the Scriptures use the term 'porneia' in connection with married persons. The same dictionary, on p. 594, in connection with Eph 5:3, 5, says that Paul “realises that not every one has the gift of continence, 1 C. 7:7. As a protection against the evil of fornication the [single] man who does not have [continence] should take the divinely prescribed way of a lawful marriage, 1 C. 7:2.” Hence, the Scriptures use the term por·nei′a also in connection with unmarried persons engaging in unlawful sex relations and practices.—See 1Co 6:9.
2007-01-26 21:04:16
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answered by Alex 5
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Sexual adutery--- " conjucal infidelity " An adulterer is a man who has sexual intercourse with a woman he is not married to , either a married woman or one who is engaged to be married !! A woman who does the same thing is an " adulteress " !! Adultery is " fornication " ! The Bible regards adultery as a great sin and a great social wrong !! It has been inferred from John 8 : 1 -11 , that this sin became very common during the age preceeding the destruction of Jerusalem !! **** Lot was "offering" his daughters in place of the two angels that were in his home ! The queers refused the daughters and wanted only the angels ! As the queers tried to push their way into Lot`s home to have at the angels , please finish the verses ?? Genesis 19 : 10 - 11 .. But the men ( angels ) put forth their hand , and pulled Lot into the house to them , and shut the door .. And they ( the angels ) smote the men that were at the door of the house with "blindness", both small and great : so that they wearied themselves to find the door !! You never know when you are being given a test by The Lord to verify your Faith in Him ! Lot`s daughters were still virgins after this ordeal !**** WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT PRE-MARITIAL SEX IS WRONG ? SEE EXODUS 20 : 14 . THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, it`s one of The Ten Commandments !!!
2007-01-26 21:14:21
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answered by Anonymous
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What a good question! I don't think the issue here is if premarital sex is allowed or not.
In the Old Testament law was different for having sex with a married and an unmarried woman. If a married woman slept with somebody who was not her husband, both she and the male transgressor should have been stoned to death. Same with people who were engaged. Adultery was a very serious issue. If a man raped an unmarried girl, they wouldn't be stoned to death but the man had to ask the father to marry his daugther. So maybe that would save the girl from life-long shame. If the man didn't want to marry her, I think she had to live in shame in her father's family for her whole life. I think there was something about how to distinguish if the whole thing was really rape or the girl just wanted to sleep with the guy but I have to find it because I don't want to be mistaken.
About Lot offering his daughters, that's a whole different issue. First, there was the law of hospitality - strangers had to accepted in your house without questioning and offered the best you have. For Lot it was impossible to think that he would allow something so disgraceful to happen to strangers under his own roof. And then the city people wanted to rape those men - this has always been something which God calls an abomination and is considered so by godly man. So Lot would rather have his daugthers raped which would be bad but not as horrible as transgressing two sacred principles of godly life, thus chosing the lesser evil. What's more, those two men were angels sent by God to test if there are at least 10 righteous people in Sodom in which case the city would be saved. Except Lot and his family, who proved his righteousness by what he did, no one else was saved when the city was destroyed.
So as you see, this was not about premarital sex at all but about keeping God's laws.
Sorry, this is getting kind of long. You judge the situation from the perspective of our times. But at the time Lot lived, society was different and people would choose what to do according to the values of the time. We don't understand hospitality the way those people did (and they still do in some countries of the Middle East). For us family relations are more important than honor while then it might have been the other way round. Or for example, we value women more highly than people then did. What I'm saying is not that he didn't love his daughters - he obviously did, because he was a godly man and he had even chosen future husbands for them - but he had to make a choice and he did the right thing because he and his family got saved and his daugthers didn't suffer.
2007-01-26 20:43:36
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answered by petyado 4
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Sex outside of marriage is fornication.
(Genesis 1:28) Further, God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.”
(1 Corinthians 7:2-5) yet, because of prevalence of fornication, let each man have his own wife and each woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render to [his] wife her due; but let the wife also do likewise to [her] husband. 4 The wife does not exercise authority over her own body, but her husband does; likewise, also, the husband does not exercise authority over his own body, but his wife does. 5 Do not be depriving each other [of it], except by mutual consent for an appointed time, that YOU may devote time to prayer and may come together again, that Satan may not keep tempting YOU for YOUR lack of self-regulation.
2007-01-26 21:26:16
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answered by pugjw9896 7
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Read Ephesians 5 and then read again Genesis 19 but this time read what happened before and after you got the concept of what happened here wrong
2007-01-26 20:25:34
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answered by channiek 4
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read the entire book of Ephesians
2007-01-26 20:46:06
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answered by ken s 6
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Lot had scant respect for women, not even his daughters, he ended up fathering kids with them later on so he was no paragon or example to follow.
2007-01-26 20:17:41
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answered by CHEESUS GROYST 5
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lets have premarital sex and if God gives us a sign we'll consider our actions sinful. Its better to follow experience than a two thousand year old story book.
2007-01-26 20:15:35
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answered by Anonymous
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Don't worry, Lot is in Hell now.
2007-01-26 20:12:52
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answered by a sock 3
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