Creationist I have a question for you?

Question

If you don't believe in evolution, how do you explain that mitochondrial DNA evidence proves it.
As an example, it's recently proved that our species spit off from **** Neaderthal 500,000 years ago.

http://www.the-scientist.com/news/display/36437/

AND why does mitochondrial DNA show that humans and chimpanzees had a common ancestor about 6 million years ago, just a few hundred thousand years before the rise of Australopithecus Africanus

Answer 1

Creationist can always say "god did it" or "the devil did it to confuse us".

There's nothing, absolutely nothing, that you can do against that kind of thinking.

Answer 2

Just for your perspective, I used to believe in evolution till I became a Christian, I was steeped in that mind washing information from science. I swallowed it hook line and sinker, I believed everything they said was fact, and without questioning the authenticity and truthfullness of the information, I believed it, why should they lie, right? It is all proven by science, right? Why should those who don't believe in it not see the error that they are living and conform to the evidence.

When I became a Christian I saw the truth of that error of evolution. They were pushing lies, not theories but "hypothetical idiocy" and people were swallowing it, because they were the "authorities" and should know, right - absolutely wrong! This "neaderthal hoax and this mitochondrial DNA" is a smoke screen of falsehoods. When the smoke is cleared away, then they will have pushed some other nonsense so as to muddy the waters of true science which they refuse to listen.

The point of all this is - where is the "authenticity of their statements", and how do you know absolutely sure that what they are telling you is 100% truth. - the bottom line is you can't and you know you can't - they know they can't - but the alternative is to believe in a Creator - which they won't do!

Answer 3

First explain to me how the DNA was formed and the cell membranes were formed.

The former atheist Antony Flew said that the latest biological research "has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce (life), that intelligence must have been involved."

If you actually want to get into the genetics of it then according to the genetic data, the "Y Chromosomal Adam" did not live when the "Mitochondrial Eve" lived out her life. They were living at different times. The "Mitochondrial Eve" is thought to have lived in a bottleneck 150,000 years ago while the "Y Chromosomal Adam" is thought to have lived in a more recent bottleneck 60,000 years ago. This shows matches the account of Noah in that there was only 1 lineage saved Noah and his sons and there were 3 women saved (the wives) that will show the Mitochondiral Eve results of a much older date. Now the dates of 150,000 years and 60,000 years are about the oldest dates that are regarded as reliable and often much younger dates debated.

"The principle of [divine] purpose ... stares the biologist in the face wherever he looks ... . The probability for such an event as the origin of DNA molecules to have occurred by sheer chance is just too small to be seriously considered ... ."Ernst Boris Chain - Nobel Prize in medicine

Answer 4

mostly, i suppose it's because even though these scientists talk about all of the information they have, etc, i've yet to meet a biology teacher/expert who is able to back up their answers without circular reasoning. i'm not saying the world is only 6000 years old, or even that some animals haven't adapted/evolved overtime, but i don't believe in the primordial soup evolution. little slight adaptations are reasonable, but some things seem too way out there...and basically, if u believe in god, u know that he created u. i suppose u could argue that he did, by evolution, but i choose to believe what i believe. anyway, i also find a hard time accepting the bing bang that goes along with evolution.....ps, how exactly does the mitochondrial DNA prove that we are split off from them? oh, also, i recall watching some video with a guy on it talking about how the bones of the 'neanderthal' were not complete, etc, and that they couldn't prove it or something like that....something like they couldn't prove the people had deformities or something--it was like an 8 week study on evolution i did at church
pps--also, evolution is in itself, a theory, which basically means that we think that this is true, and so we will consider it so until something else replaces it/makes it incorrect

Answer 5

Question. How can you believe so strongly in science when science generally doesnt hold up to the test of time? For example. 200 years ago the top scientists in the world just knew for a fact that the sun burned coal. The sun was a huge collection of coal burning-putting off heat. It was considered a fact by all the great minds-it had been scientifically proven. If you didnt believe this fact you were considered backwards and uneducated. There are many other scientific facts from years ago - some from not that long ago that today we laugh at, that we now know are garbage. My point? What if 50 years from now your scientific fact that you just posted is proved to be false? It very well could be.
Im not a strong Christian or creationist. But then again i dont buy into every fact of evolution and science that is fed to me either.

Answer 6

First, creationism is a belief that a Creator is responsible for everything we can observe. It is not science, it is a belief. The scientific method does not cover belief.

Presenting scientific theories based on facts, does not change this belief.

If you want to go after revelation, stick to something simpler. For example, God existed before he created everything that you can observe. This means God is in both the observable and unobservable. So what is that fact you have about the unobservable.

Answer: Creationism is a belief (Einstein believe it). It is not science because the creator must exist in an unobservable as well as the observable. Science can only deal with the observable. Did you find that fact about the unobservable yet?

Answer 7

how about asking where those neanderthals came from? we don't even need to talk about evolution, let's start with this planet. where did that come from?

how about irreducibly complex machines in the body. those are biological machines that evolution can't create. How'd did they get there? did you make? i didn't make it. science, today, has a knack for oversimplifying things and making losta guesses. Take this for example. I have read that there are 100 billion stars in the universe. Big number. I have also read, that if scientists were to count 24 hours a day, it would take 1k years to count to 100 billion. and how long have scientists been counting? 50-60 years? carbon dating has recently been shown to not be an accurate form of dating. The scientists believe that the carbon decay rate was constant...well its not. check out that book down there for more info.

Answer 8

Who said that Christians don't believe in evolution. It's a fact! What we don't believe is that life is all an accident. We believe that we were created. Also, there is still not definitive proof that we evolved from monkeys, this is the theory you are talking about. Even if that were a fact, however, I dont' see a problem with it. The Bible is not a science book. IT's a book about God and that doesn't change, evolution or no evolution.

Answer 9

yea, right, sure.

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The proof and evidence is all around you and everywhere, undeniable proof, and indisputable visible evidence. It is called creation and life. Unless your are blind, deaf, and senseless. You can see, smell, taste, hear, feel, and examine the evidence.
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We live on a planet teeming with life. Plant life with approximately 250,000 species, animal life with over a million species. Scientists are learning just how complex life is. So complex that it requires design. The evidence of design requires a designer. Scientists are also learning the conditions for life; just how perfect conditions here on planet Earth are to support all this life.
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The human brain, it absorbs forty megabytes per second of data while awake. That is two terabytes of data a day. At night, it sorts and stores that data through the creation of new chemical bonds and synaptic connectors.
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Sure, right, this all just happened and evolved. This sort of thinking takes considerable faith, exponentially more faith than believing in a creator.
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Wayne Murray

Answer 10

How did DNA form?
No computer could code,interpret and perform the information dna works with.
Man can't make anything as simple as an amoeba (on purpose)
how could life form out of some chaotic huge self-exploding blob (bang).
I will give you an experment.try blowing up some blobs and some trash and see how many organized things form.

Answer 11

Get your definition of evolution clear...there is a certian amount of evolution that exist, for example the evolution of the mind, look at vocabalary in the past 500 years and technology that man made, we don't believe in the evolution that says we came from monkeys or a one cell organism that has sex with some kind of fishfrog that had sex with a retarded squiralmonkey or something like that. We just view God as the big picture and dna talk is not proof when were talking about 1000s of years.