Evolution Vs. Creation?

Question

Do you actually know what "Theory" means?

1. An assumption based on limited knowledge or information.

2. A set of principles devised to explain a GROUP OF FACTS or phenomenon, especially one that has been repeatedly tested.

#2 is the defintion of "SCIENTIFIC THEORY"

Now that we have established that scientific theory must include: a group of facts and repeated tests.

What do you think about a Creation theory?
Creation has NO FACTS and can't be tested.
This is the very meaning of definition 1...An assumption based on limited knowledge or info (a bronze age book with thousands of different interpretations.)

Why do you think that the overwhelming majority of mainstream scientists AGREE on evolution but the majority of creationists can't agree?

Christians aren't the only creationists....native indians and many other cultures have completely different versions of a "creation" story.

(Please, no hate mail. Let's focus on facts and reality)

baroni248: you do realize that the overwhelming majority of mainstream science disagrees with you...The ID movement is a CHRISTIAN front....as if they own the creation story.

BWAAAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
Somebody said the devil is interfering with inter molecular vitamins???hahahaha! Man, I hope you are joking.

Answer 1

Right on Max! Let's start a revolution....end religion before religion ends us

Answer 2

I think you may have mixed a little hooey in to make your point...and left off a few points which might make your point less valid. I mean no disrespect, but this is how I feel about your question (?)

For example

"2. A set of principles devised to explain a GROUP OF FACTS or phenomenon, especially one that has been repeatedly tested."

You forgot "but cannot be difinitively proven" (thus THEORY!)

Also: "Creation has NO FACTS and can't be tested." I disagree. So who is right about that, you or me? What do you have to back up that statement?

Also: "This is the very meaning of definition 1...An assumption based on limited knowledge or info (a bronze age book with thousands of different interpretations.)"

Because you may have limited knowledge certainly does not mean that others have limited knowledge. Where does one's "knowledge" come from? Textbook knowledge or Divine Revelation? What limited information? I would guess that there is more information about Creationism passed through 6000 years or so than you or anyone else could possible absorb. Limited by man's limitations, not by the limits of information....

Also: "Why do you think that the overwhelming majority of mainstream scientists AGREE on evolution but the majority of creationists can't agree?" Where do you get that information? I tend to disagree, so I would love to see that data that supports it. OR is that your THEORY or opinion?

I don't have a back-up reference for this, myself, but I think that there are a great deal of scientists who actually are Creationists. (I will look into it some more.)

Answer 3

Here are some other crazy "theories" those darn scientists keep on teaching!

1. Gravity
2. Relativity
3. Quantum Mechanics

Why don't religious people attack those "theories"? Because their 2,000 year old book couldn't even begin to comprehend those phenomanon, so it doesn't conflick with anythink those theories say. The bible is silent on those theories, ignorantly silent.

But rocks where everywhere back then, and someone decided to write down that the rocks were 4,000 years old. Seemed like a good number at the time.

Now we know, however, that that is utter rubbish. But because it is written down in an old book, some folks think that trumps emprical knowledge. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

I swear, if the bible said that anything colored yellow floated into the sky then these fundies would attack Newton's "crazy theory" just as much as the do Darwin. They would swear that lemons and tennis balls could fly.

Answer 4

I am a Christian and not a creationalist. There is so much proof of evolution but fundamental Christians think that is evil and going "against the bible" to look at the facts. In reality though, the facts just prove the bible. I don't believe the 6 days of creation spoken of in Gen. were 24 hour days. Peter states, "A day to the Lord is as a 1,000 years and a 1,000 years as a day."

God also said in Gen. chapter 2, "These are the GENERATIONS of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens." This passage denotes things evolving in time from other things with God as the starter of the process.

It's too much to explain in this small space they give us. But when you view Gen. in this way that it also clears up some major problems with the Gen. story like where Cain's wife came from.

Answer 5

communicate origins is an exceptionally sturdy creation and provides you a competent dissection of creationist claims and precisely why they're incorrect besides as bearing on the evidence for evolution. the difficulty which you do no longer understand (and a substantial element for many people no longer accepting evolution) is that it does no longer in fantastic condition well into the lecture room technology test the place you may truthfully show the assumption, i.e. drop 2 distinctive sized balls and spot that they hit the floor on a similar time. further, there is great quantities of learn that has been executed, yet maximum of it has a tendency to be astonishing previous intense college stages. Dawkin's modern-day e book "the super prepare on earth" could be a competent reference. The hyperlinks under ought to supplement others given to you. endure in innovations, you ought to examine the sources stated and double examine claims that are made. Be skeptical and purpose and don't settle for something at face cost or only via fact it sounds lifelike.

Answer 6

all religions have a creation myth or story it is just that a story. and as far as. even the ancient religions (greek and roman mythologies) have a creation story. the thing being all stories need a beginning. and yes i believe in evolution.
one more thing i would like to point out. after studying the beginning of civilization (a concept that some people don't consider when talking about religion) the oldest known civilization found is over 20,000 years old called the minoens, and after that it was the miceneans (sorry for the spelling) and azurians and so on, doesn't that conflict with the idea that the earth is only 5,000 years old :-o , even when completely proven some people don't want to believe this either.
but as you said it was a broze age book, after all.

Answer 7

Scientists do believe in things they can't understand or see.
The believe in Quarks and they believe in electricity even if they cannot explain it.
If science cannot tell us how our universe began but concludes that it was not always there, then scientists would indeed be creationists. yes?

Now, about facts and reality, millions of pages have been written on those subjects and modern man still have problems in defining them. What seems like facts have been always changing to fantasy and 'reality' may just be a very personal subject. What seems real to you might not be real to the man who lives down the street.

Our universe and everything within is so confusingly wonderful, that within a discussion of Evolution and creation, none will be wiser.
Leave it alone my dear sir.

Answer 8

Dear Max,

I think you should be aware that most scientists who hold to the evolutionary proposition are re-evaluating their position. They have come to realize that "evolution" if it did occur is not occurring at the present time. Secondly, based on the physical laws of conservation of mass and energy, evolution could not have taken place. There needs to be a blueprint or instructions for matter to be arranged in the complex organization of even the simplest cell. That "order" does not come about by random actions of molecules or atoms. The "lock" and "key" nature of many proteins would not allow for random interactions to produce specific results. Even astonomers are recognizing that the solar system that we are in is very young, and not billions of years old. In fact Max, you'll find that Lois Pasteur and Johann Kepler were christians. Don't feel threatened because of scientists that believe in the God of the Bible. I do not feel threatened because non-scientists do not believe in the God of the Bible.

Answer 9

The story of Creation comes under the definition of an opinion; a belief based on grounds short of proof.

Answer 10

how about this fact

Richard Lewontin is Alexander Agassiz Professor of Zoology at Harvard. In his book The Genetic Basis of Evolutionary Change he says there are instances in which ‘speciation and divergence of new full species’ have obviously occurred using ‘the available repertoire of genetic variants’ without requiring any ‘novelties by new mutation’. In other words, an ancestral species can split into other species within the limits of the information already present in that kind—just as creationists maintain must have happened.

evolution can't be tested either.
Creation has hundreds of facts to support it, the about is just one.

Answer 11

You know, you bring up an interesting point.
You almost have to be a detective, being alert to the tell tale signs in order to accomplish discovering the most minute of scientifc evidence in order to help piece together hard facts to back up your theories.

I was at one time attending a lecture by an alumni graduate of Princeton University -Theology , and this he said...I am committed to Christ. There are a number of us who have taken on the Bible to disprove it and while on our quest are converted by what we learn from its pages...It is very powerful.

While listening to this gentleman I was fascinated with what he had to say:

he described how it was impossible for we humans to be created by a random spin of carbon traveling through space.

E.G.- if one considers the calculation of an exact p.s.i. pressure point regarding the atmosphere, taking into effect that every living beings lungs can function at the precise intake and out expansion
without the effect of implosion-THAT IS BY DESIGN.

Or that gravity is at an exact measured point in order to keep you & I firmly down on Earth.-THAT IS BY DESIGN.

When I tell you that this guy rifled off one startling point after another ...well all I can say when I read the likes of what you are trying to say is ...go ahead- believe what you wanna believe-
and I'll believe what I wanna believe !!