He doesn't stop horrible things like, i.e., child rape, but evade the reply that you obviously don't want God stopping your own sins by pointing out that it isn't your problem because you don't believe in God in the first place?
2007-01-26 06:29:23 · 37 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Yeah, let's leave it to God to stop pedophiles from raping children; let's let God sort out all those priests who abuse their alter boys. You don't need to worry about the police or the justice system, they can't handle the issue, let God deal with it. And nevermind those who start wars, commit genocides, execute heretics in the name of God; let's all worry about those who commit blasphemy! They're the one's who have committed a greater crime against God and their fellow man!
Does this make any sense to you? It sure as hell doesn't make any sense to me!
2007-01-26 06:44:03 · answer #1 · answered by Psyleet 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
One of the hardest things to swallow in the Christian belief, and proved throughout the years by man saying this sin is worse than another, is that technically all sin is equally bad.
However, the point is not that god should stop "sin" just limit it so that it or the bad effects of it dont damage others. If that can not be done, how about limiting the natural disasters or helping out in the areas that really need it?
I would gladly give up my "sin" in order to stop child molestation.
2007-01-26 06:42:45 · answer #2 · answered by Pirate AM™ 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Say there was a trial for murder, and the man accused said "it wasn't me God killed that man."
And the Judge said: "Fine prove there is a God, and I'll set you free."
You know that man's going to jail. Oh, and the Miracle on 34th St. idea of taking all the letters to Santa (God) isn't going to work either. The only "evidence" Christians ever have is : Bible, Faith, Universe. The only one of these tht can be taken seriously is the niverse, but unfortunatly the universe is evidence for every creation theory.
The only thing really keeping me from believing there is no God is that every civilization in history has had some kind of God figure, even the pagans in the bible. This means humans have always felt there was a higher power out there. But I think it's becoming obvious that "God" isn't the hands on type.
2007-01-26 06:41:51 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Obviously logic is not part of the core academic curriculum anymore.
The argument runs like this: IF there is a just and merciful God who cared for his creation, he should naturally interrupt ALL "evil", yours, mine, theirs. It would be equally fair. But he doesn't. Therefore God must not exist.
Your implication that the atheist is somehow protecting his own evil interests is not a valid argument. IF God does NOT exist, then there is no heavenly cop to arrest, accuse and judge either him OR you. (Even non-existing, God is consistent.)
However, the original argument is flawed. It rests on the unproven premise that divine justice requires apiori intervention. God may operate in a different way. It depends on the precise definitions of "just", "merciful" and the like. Most logical arguments fail because of undefined terms and untested premises.
2007-01-26 07:19:19 · answer #4 · answered by skepsis 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Being a person not bewildered with dogma or dreams of a supernatural being. I have no F- - K - -G idea what you mean by your question. Having good morals and respecting the rights of other individuals(of even you and yours),will keep the child from being raped. Having religion or not does not determine the morality of someone. If someone 'sins', or does something evil.
That person will answer to a court of his or her peers. And be punished accordingly. Not sent to anyone with" higher authority",who will only pass punishment in another life time.
2007-01-26 07:03:24 · answer #5 · answered by dewhatulike 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Is God willing but unable to stop suffering? Then he is impotent.
Is God able but unwilling to stop suffering? Then he is sadistic.
Is God both willing and able to stop suffering? Then whence comes Evil?
Is God both unwilling and unable to stop suffering? Then why call him god?
So, let me as you two questions:
Does God want to end suffering?
Is God able to end suffering?
Now, you can play the free will card. But you say, "God is Omnipotent." Very well, if he can do anything that is not itself logically self-contradictory (ie: the rock too heavy is bogus), I posit this action: "I, God, will create life that has free will to judge its actions but yet will lack the inclination or desire for evil." This is not logically self-contradictory.
God COULD have made man in such a way that Man would have been unable to fall but still have free will.
So why the fall?
I agree, it's a simplistic proof, but I've yet to hear a valid criticism of it. You come up with a criticism of this that is logically valid and I'll move on to the meatier disproofs.
2007-01-26 06:43:43 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
My proof of the non-existence of god need not go farther than your lack of the opposite. Any additional circumstantial proof is like salt in the wound or an "in yo face" slam dunk.
Why do Christians believe that a quote from the bible is "slam dunk" proof he exists?
2007-01-26 06:45:46 · answer #7 · answered by southswell2002 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I am an atheist, and I don't claim anything to be "proof against God". The question is posed most often as a hypothetical, you are not asked why god allows bad things to happen, you are asked, IF THERE IS A GOD, why does he allow bad things to happen? That is a valid question. Hypothetically, assuming that your god exists, why is that god said to be omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent, and is yet so essentially flawed?
Questioning your god's motives does not constitute belief in that god's existence, nor does it prove that god does not exist. It asks you to consider this glaring contradiction that Christianity presents, and explain it.
2007-01-26 06:43:18 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
There is no god, it is not to me or other Atheists to prove that there is no god, it is up to all religious maniacs to provide one shred of proof that such a person or entity exists and the fact is no one can, ever has been or ever will be able to do this, god only exist in the fevered minds of religious lunatics.
2007-01-26 06:39:22 · answer #9 · answered by Stephen P 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
You claim your god can do great things. I don't believe in your god, but if he is real, as you claim, and if your god can do great things, then why dosn't he? Why dosn't he stop all the bad things in the world? Isn't the fact that he dosn't a clue that he dosn't exist? Or is he just an evil god?
2007-01-26 06:41:42 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋