What if atheism is part of the divine plan?

Question

What if some people are supposed to deny God in order to make the believers stand out? (kind of like Calvinism but not quite)

If we assume that hell was not everlasting for the individual soul, then this form of predestination would seem to work.

What do you think?

Note: Don't bother calling me a "believer in fairy tales" because I'm making this up. That counts as creativity, not delusion.

Answer 1

A few months ago, I had an urge to go to a synagogue, so I emailed the local Reform Synagogue's rabbi, explained my situation (atheist with an urge to go to synagogue for reasons he couldn't explain), and he invited me to attend.

What impressed me most was that when I mentioned my atheism again when we met face to face, he just shrugged and said, "You are exactly where God needs you. Right now, if you are an atheist, that is where he needs you. If it ever happens he needs you a different way, you will be a different way. God's plan is being fulfilled and we are all part of it in our own ways."

That was kinda a neat viewpoint.

Answer 2

i think about even if you'll stated the heading of the internet website which says that the article is biased and is project to doubt? besides, optimal individuals international huge, do no longer take their faith too heavily. the clarification in all fairness elementary. faith does no longer positioned the foodstuff on the table nor does it pay your rates and also you've were given a life to stay and little ones to safeguard. there is s particular quantity of skepticism in in uncomplicated words about all minds about what their "faith" says. The desolate tract Messianic Faiths of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are depending upon lies. there is not any way that each and anyone ought to have witnessed "interior the start up, all grew to grow to be darkish and void, ....." nor the tips of Adam and Eve, etc. some thing outfitted upon a weak beginning position is for particular to break down the second one the start position falls. Christian Atheism, even if if, is an oxymoron and the article is, to position it very mildly, tedious, lacking in any direction and is in uncomplicated words a rambling of random expenditures. Sorry, yet it is the very actuality. .

Answer 3

Is this analogous to the question of whether God causes some people to suffer and be tortured, so that others will count their blessings and thank God that they aren't the ones suffering?

A sticky question: is evil be the darkness that allows light to show forth in contrast? There are schools of thought that believe in this necessity; I think Zoroastrianism is based upon this struggle and necessary conflict (don't quote me--I'm no expert). It is like positing that there would be no need for God if there were no Satan, no Eru without Morgoth, no Light Side of the Force without the Dark Side of the Force, and so forth.

Of course, the atheist angle is slightly different in that it rejects the entire theistic scenario. It seeks to shift the paradigm away from the "good vs. evil" conflict to the "atheist vs. theist" conflict. It would draw up a contrast for believers of any theistic religion, but it would not guarantee salvation for any of them, as that would have to be earned through the channels of the individual system of belief.

Answer 4

There's a midrash (allegorical story on the Jewish scriptures) that says that when Moses was up on Mt. Sinai receiving the Torah, he stopped God during the transcription to complain about the wording of the verse, "Let us make man" (Gen: ch3)
Moses' complaint was (Moses knew what the verse really meant) that scoffers would read this and claim that there is a multiplicity of gods and this would be a desecration of God's name (a terrible sin). God's reply was, "let the scoffer's scoff....shut up and write".

So, yes, it is obvious that those who deny God in part or in whole are part of the plan.

Answer 5

So god isn't satisfied with the horrid things it has wrought, it's got to intentionally set up a contentious religious situation with folks that are predestined to not be accepted into its "love". That's pretty twisted, even for god!

Answer 6

I think you may have a good point there. Almost anything gets stronger in the face of adversity, so you could say the same could be said about religious beliefs.

Answer 7

Look, God disires that everyone should come to know and love Him as He loves everyone of us,but let`s face it God knows that some people will never choose to do this,even Jesus was not able to attract everyone to Him.

Answer 8

It actually is a little of BOTH WORLDS. GOD has already called this a lie. HeLL is forever. You might want to rethink your premise. Heaven is also an eternal quarters. Get a BIBLE and begin your study.
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Answer 9

I'm not too big in the whole predestination thing, but I do think that opposition in all things is part of the divine plan.

Answer 10

I guess if we nontheists can assert that all religions are man-made and the so-called "religious compulsion" can be explained by psychology, then it's only fair that religionists be free to claim we're part of their deity's master plan.