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It is agreed by scholars that Paul's contrast between the "one" and that "many" here, that "many" means all. For the "many" were "made sinners" by the "one" (Adam's ) sin, and Paul had already concluded that the "all have sinned ( Adam )" a few verses earlier ( Rom 5:12 ). But if all were "made sinners" means actually became sinners, then why does not all "will be made righteous" in the same verse mean that all will be saved?( Rom 15:9 )

2007-01-25 09:24:20 · 22 answers · asked by SeeTheLight 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Tell me your thoughts.

2007-01-25 09:24:54 · update #1

Rom 8:3
The Potential View:
Some scholars believe that Paul is simply reffering to being " made righteous " by Jesus' death in a potential sense.

Meaning, by the cross all people are made s a v a b l e, but not all people will be saved . Those who hold this position point to the fact that the parallel is not perfect , for we were "made sinners' in Adam without our personal free choice.

Nevertheless, we cannot be " made righteous " in Christ without freely receiving the " gift " ( 5:16-17 )

2007-01-26 06:11:46 · update #2

The Judical View:
According to theis position, all persons were " made sinners " and " made righteous " in the same sense - j u d i c a l l y. That is, both Jesus and Adam were out l e g a l representatives.

And while in Adan al his race were before God made sinners o f f i c i a l l y , nonetheless, in Christ all are officially made righteous, though not actually and personally .

And jus as every person, when they come to the age of accontability, must personally sin to be personally guilty, even so everyone must personally accept Jesus to be personally saved. ( that is why I got baptized again as an adult, because no one can make that decision for me - no matter how well they mean )

Christ removed the official and judical guilt that was imputed to the race because of Adam's sin. This does not mean that everyone is ACTUALLY ( automatically ) saved, but only that they are no longer L e g a l l y condemned. The gift of salvation is offered to everyone

2007-01-26 06:21:22 · update #3

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All are made rightous by Christ. All that receive Christ as Lord.
This scripture may apply to you I Corinthians 2:10-15

2007-01-25 09:36:41 · answer #1 · answered by white dove 5 · 1 0

I don't know what "scholars" you speak of , but with my work in the manuscripts, the word "many" as utilized in Romans 5:19 is from the Greek - If you have a Strongs Concordance, it will be #4183 in your Greek Dictionary - the word "many" was translated from the Greek word "palloos" pronounced "poll-oos", and means "many" or "much of".
Also, what you read there in Romans if you back up and track the subject and the object, you will see that what it says is that from Adam all the way to Moses (which is an idiom, or saying) man continued to sin, as it is in the nature of the flesh to do so, even though mans sins are not similar to Adams - still all do sin.
In addition, many will find rightiousness in Jesus Christ, who died so that upon repentance a soul can have forgiveness.
Nobody "made" you a sinner - its just that all of us are, by nature sinners, from Adam all the way to Moses and beyond.

2007-01-25 09:48:28 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

It is not agreed by scholars that Paul when using the term "all" is referring to every person ever to live. Rather Paul is demonstrating that as all who came from Adam also have his guilt as Adam represented them, so also All who are born again in Christ have His righteousness. This would only be those born again who now have Christ as their head. No where does the Bible teach that every human being is righteous or is made righteous. Only those in Christ who have been born again spiritually by His Spirit have been given His righteousness. The term "all" has many uses in the Greek and many times and in many places does not refer to every human. Even as Jesus says to His followers that they will be hated by all, He did not mean they would hate each other.

2007-01-25 09:46:40 · answer #3 · answered by beek 7 · 3 0

I think what Paul wants to say is this:
All sin for disobedience like Adam.
All will be saved for obedience to the command of doing the Will of God through Christ.
Many, including the false Christians, are still unsaved because they choose to follow the way of disobedience like Adam.

2007-01-25 09:43:27 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

They will be if united to Christ by faith. V1 tells us we are justified by faith, and 4/24 tells us that righteousness is imputed by faith. Chapter 6, vvs 3-6, 8 also demonstrate being united to Christ. Faith in Him is what unites us to Him.

You have to read the context in which it is said.

Scripture cannot contradict itself, each verse must be read in the light of every other, cf 2 Timothy 2/15.

Many or all is read for the purpose of contrast, all who were made sinners contrasted to all who shall be made righteous.

As very ably pointed out above, v17 which builds and flows in the argument limits or qualifies, they which receive.

2007-01-25 10:22:25 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

One means equal to many is coming out from sutra of Buhda. Many is equal to one same.
The bible first chapter indicate Adam committed sin when he ate the clarificate tree of fruit. The clarifyed sin and holy is already sin.
Once you go into clarify right or wrong, you will have you own idea different from other people because other people may not have the same experience or knowledgement to standpoint the right and wrong. Then the arguement will come out. Then will fight and kill. That is why the bible said ate the clarify sin and holly tree's fruits was sin.

2007-01-25 09:49:24 · answer #6 · answered by johnkamfailee 5 · 0 0

No...many is simply many and not 'all...'

Paul’s words also point to this conclusion when he says that “just as through the disobedience of the one man [Adam] many were constituted sinners, likewise also through the obedience of the one person [Christ Jesus] many will be constituted righteous.” (Ro 5:19) Those to be “constituted righteous” by Christ’s obedience were not all immediately so constituted at the moment of his presenting his ransom sacrifice to God, but they progressively come under the benefits of that sacrifice as they come to exercise faith in that provision and become reconciled to God. (Joh 3:36; Ac 3:19) So, too, progressive generations of Adam’s descendants have been constituted sinners as they have been conceived by their innately sinful parents in Adam’s line.

2007-01-25 09:34:06 · answer #7 · answered by Gizelle K 3 · 3 0

The living energies that God found, to create heaven, were all positive energies, the ones he found within Matter's, and the substances and elements of matter, not all were to become positive, so, the negatives energies of matter, can be save, if they become by the blood believers, and God and Jesus followers. Paul and all the apostles knew that so it was hard before to believed then, steal is not easy, many peoples may don't believed the true is whit-in our own energy, positive a/o negative!<

2007-01-25 09:33:43 · answer #8 · answered by paradiseemperatorbluepinguin 5 · 0 0

Hermeneutic 101: context

v.17 - much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will (AI)reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.

The context of the "all" regards those in v.17

2007-01-25 09:38:21 · answer #9 · answered by Jerry 3 · 1 0

Because not everybody would be happy in heaven. There is still free will. God is not going to draw lines in heaven and all the Arabs stay on one side and all the Americans stay on the other. All the divorced males on one side and all the divorced females on the other. All the Black people on one side and all the White people on the other. etc ad nausium

2007-01-25 09:32:52 · answer #10 · answered by I-o-d-tiger 6 · 0 0

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