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Rom 3 8:3

Paul asserts that Jesus was made "in the likeness of sinful flesh" but he does not assert that Jesus is human flesh. Yet the Bible speaks repeatedly of Jesus being incarnated in human flesh, that is, of being human, not just like human.

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2007-01-25 08:57:35 · 22 answers · asked by SeeTheLight 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Rom 8:3
The Potential View:
Some scholars believe Paul is simply referring to being " made righteous" by Christ's death in a potential sense. That is to say, by the cross all people are made SAVABLE, but not all people will be saved.
Those who hold this position point to the fact that the parallel is not perfect, for "we were made sinners" in Adam without our personal free choice. Nevertheless,we cannot be "made righteous" in Christ without freely receiving the "gift" ( 5:16-17 ).

2007-01-26 05:35:37 · update #1

OOPPSY DAISY the text above was meant to go to my other question's detail..sorry

2007-01-26 05:48:28 · update #2

In Philippians 2 Paul speaks of Christ being "in the likeness of men " as meaning the same as being a human ( v 7 ). So even without qualifier " sinful " , Paul speaks of Jesus "likeness to humans as meaning the same as " being a human ".

2007-01-26 05:53:00 · update #3

22 answers

Fully human

The Bible builds an equally clear case in support of Christ’s full humanity subsequent to the Incarnation. Several passages indicate that Christ had a human birth (Matt. 1:18-25; Luke 2:4-21; John 1:14; 1 Tim. 3:15; 1 John 4:1-3). He also had a human development (Luke 2:52). He had all the human elements: a body (John 2:21), a soul (John 12:27), and a spirit (Luke 23:46).

In addition, just as Christ had divine names, He also had human names such as “man” (1 Tim. 2:5), “Son of man” (Luke 19:10), and “Son of David” (Mark 10:47). Christ possessed all of the human limitations except sin. He got tired, hungry, thirsty, sorrowful, and He died.

The Bible, therefore, gives clear testimony to the humanity as well as the complete deity of Jesus Christ. Paul summarizes this: “For in him all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form” (Col. 2:9).

The mystery here lies in the fact that humanity is not the same as deity. If Jesus were 50 percent God and 50 percent man (as some have taught), there would be no problem, since one-half plus one-half equals one. But the Bible does not allow this because it testifies that Jesus is a total man and fully God. Even though it is easy to make a statement like this, there is no way in which it can be truly comprehended because one plus one does not equal one. It is like trying to put one quart of water and one quart of oil into a one-quart container.

Human reasoning denies that one can be fully human and fully divine, but the Bible tells us that is the case with Jesus Christ.

2007-01-25 09:04:34 · answer #1 · answered by pops 6 · 9 1

There is not a 38th chapter in Romans.
I think you mean 8:3 Rom -
Anyway, Jesus Christ came in the flesh - the reason it was said "in the likeness of sinful flesh" is simply because even though Christ was in the flesh, He was not sinful - therefore, He was in the likeness of SINFUL flesh. Another way to say it is that He came in the flesh, minus the sinful part.

2007-01-25 17:19:16 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Jesus was flesh... it is said so in the Bible. Jesus is The Word and we are told "In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us."

This statement has two major implications: Jesus was not created, at the very beginning of time the divine nature of Jesus already WAS. It also tells us that this divine nature took on a complete human nature (albeit a perfect human nature) and became true flesh. Jesus even supports this when He tells His followers that in order to have life they must "eat His Flesh and drink His Blood."

While MOST human nature is sinful, Jesus was born through the immaculate conception and thus spared from any integral contact with sinful flesh... hence He was delivered pure in both Divine and Human nature... and the Immaculate Conception was the first to be born pure in human nature since Adam had been created and fallen. (which is useful to remember: the base existance of humanity is one of sinless unity with God, it is our corruption to our flesh which removes that sinless existance)

2007-01-25 17:04:01 · answer #3 · answered by promethius9594 6 · 1 1

Oh, my thoughts are that satan is never tired of attacking the deity of Jesus Christ. He knows the truth will set men free. I think (KNOW SO is more like it) the anti-Christ spirit is definitely at work among us. So, I will try to not be weary in well doing for in due season, I shall reap if I faint not!

Yes, Jesus was human flesh among us. There are many scriptures to affirm this throughout the Bible. If you even understood the reason for blood being shed for the remission of sins, you would comprehend why that Jesus, as the pure sinless Lamb of God, could take away the sins of the world through his blood sacrifice on Calvary. The reason He took upon Himself the form of man is because it was the only way to prove that we can live above sin, that He as our High Priest bore our afflictions, carried our sorrows, and understands the feelings of our infirmaties because He experienced these things and temptations in the flesh. He lived without sin and the Father was pleased at His obedience and that He was willing to be our propitiation (atonement and substitute) for sin.
If people could understand this, they can be set free by the truth. If satan can blind people to the Deity of Christ, then Jesus is just a man who could not atone for our sins before the mercy seat of God. But He is Emmanuel, meaning God with us and He is God incarnate there is no doubt. He did fulfil the scriptures "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised," (Luke 4:18) That is why He is called Jesus, the Messiah, Mighty God, Everlasting Prince of Peace. There is no other name under heaven whereby we must be saved. Jesus is Lord of Lords, King of Kings, He is worthy and He is sitting at the right hand of the Father making intercession for His people and He is coming back SOON!

2007-01-25 18:50:12 · answer #4 · answered by Lovin' Mary's Lamb 4 · 2 0

What Romans is saying is that flesh is sinful. Jesus was made in the likeness of sinful flesh, IE: Like us, humans, of being made of flesh and all of its sins like greed, gluttony, lust etc. That way he could experiece what we feel and experience, and we as humans could relate to his suffering, and hopefully that would have an impact on us as a people to do as he did, good. He really needs to get back here and clean house....

2007-01-25 17:07:11 · answer #5 · answered by Dave 5 · 2 0

Jesus was in the human flesh.......He could have failed! His prayer in the garden "God take this cup from me" 'If it is Your will" . He didn't want to go thru what had to be done but he Chose to save us all. It's called Salvation, it's free and it was done for me! What a gift!
40 days and 40 nights in the wilderness with satan at his heels trying to tempt him......
He was a man but he was also without sin as man knows it.

2007-01-25 17:10:07 · answer #6 · answered by LucySD 7 · 2 0

The Bible states that Jesus, when he was in the world, that He was both fully man and fully God at the same time, but without sin. So when Paul says "in the likeness of sinful flesh", it means He looked like everybody else, who was sinful, but wasn't himself. :D

2007-01-25 17:09:26 · answer #7 · answered by Richard H 1 · 2 0

Read John 1:14

2007-01-25 17:07:19 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Just to add to some very good answers,

Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. Hebrews 2/14-17

2007-01-25 18:59:04 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

He was "born" of the Virgin Mary...... just as the prophecy had said:

Isa 9:6-7
6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David's throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.
(from New International Version)

He was also "given" by the Father.

2007-01-25 17:29:50 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

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