If you are to be killed and the only way out is to commit fornication, will you say “ I don’t sin because I was trying to save my life, and to do this I need to commit fornication”. Don’t you have faith that Jehovah can make another way out so that you remain faithful to him?
If someone you love will die if you don’t say the information about his whereabouts, will a true Christian break God’s law and tell a lie or just simply either keep quiet or withhold the information from the bad person?”
If you were standed with no food except for unbled meat (from Acts 15, Rev 2) or human flesh, will a true Christian eat those or will have faith that God can provide other food aside from those? If the person ate human flesh and say that he has not committed a sin because he is just saving his own life, is he truly a Christian?
2007-01-25
05:32:08
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If we sinned and ADMIT we sinned and repent, then God will show us MERCY. If we insist that we do not SIN after breaking God’s Laws, then we are liars. Remember FAITHFULNESS to God is also part of the weightier matters of the Law.
What do you think?
2007-01-25
05:32:34 ·
update #1
Correction fo 2nd question:
If someone you love will die if you say the information about his whereabouts, will a true Christian break God’s law and tell a lie or just simply either keep quiet or withhold the information from the bad person?. Thanks
2007-01-25
09:55:38 ·
update #2
God deals differently between a sin caused by an accident and a sin that is premeditated and an accident that has proved fatal.See Ex 21.
For deliberate murder, capital punishment was mandatory; for those guilty of accidental homicide, cities of refuge were set up. (Nu 35:11-25, 31) in the HebScriptures.
Eating a strangled animal/unbled meat was put in the same level as fornication in Acts 15, and Rev 2. Eating an animal that was strangled was serious enough to have Jesus say that he is against the people who were doing that. See Rev 2.
A breaking of the traffic law which will prevent death due to an accident is not a willful sin.
It is a willful sin when you know that something is NOT an accident, and you pretend that the situation was an accident in order for you to break the laws of the government.
Heb 10:26 states "26 For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left".
2007-01-25
10:41:36 ·
update #3
I don't believe that when you accidentally break the traffic law that that situation is comparable to eating things sacrificed to idols, in which Jesus hold this act, against the people who did that in Rev 2 (See also Acts 15).
2007-01-25
10:46:31 ·
update #4
We have to understand that human governments act as “God’s minister to you for your GOOD” and that “the existing authorities stand placed in their RELATIVE positions by God”.
This does not mean Christians must ignore God’s laws when there is a conflict between the laws of the authorities and God’s Word. Christians also need to “pay back God’s things to God”.
Hitler for example killed a lot of people, what he has done is not “for your good”, therefore Hitler did not act as God’s minister.
Jehovah is interested in PREVENTING accidents so that human lives can be saved. Example : When a house was built, God’s Law required that its roof—a place of considerable family activity—have a parapet. “You must also make a parapet for your roof, that you may not place bloodguilt upon your house because someone . . . might fall from it.” (Deuteronomy 22:8).
2007-01-26
02:04:21 ·
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A traffic light is done also for the purpose of PREVENTING accidents thus saving lives. If we follow that, we are in fact in agreement with God’s will. But during accidents, are you really sinning when you run a red light in order to PREVENT a fatal accident? Government’s law about that may differ, and in some it is UNLAWFUL to run a red light in any circumstances, but not for some governments. Which is acting according to God’s will? Jehovah’s will is to PREVENT the accident so that human lives can be saved, so running a red light to PREVENT a fatal accident is NOT a sin to Jehovah but maybe unlawful to some human governments.
2007-01-26
02:05:34 ·
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Paul discusses in 1 Corinthians 8:1-13 and10:25-30 about some Christians’ going into the shambles or the butcher shops or the restaurants connected with the heathen temples of those days and eating meat that had been dedicated to demons, to idols. Part of that sacrifice was given over to the idol, offered up on the altar, and then there was some meat that was left over that was shunted over to the butcher shops or to the restaurants and they served it as ordinary meat to the people, and Christians had the right to go in there and eat of that meat. It had lost its sacred significance now that it was in the butcher shop or in the restaurant. It was common, although some Christians, Paul said, had weak consciences and they still thought it had a sacred significance
2007-01-26
02:19:10 ·
update #7
The same with this bread that had been replaced, taken out of the holy. It was as David said, in a sense it was common, and so it could be used. Ordinarily it was to be used only by the priests, it is true; but in exceptional circumstances it apparently could be used in an act of mercy, as it was in the case of David, for that is what Jesus indicated by his construction upon David’s conduct, as discussed at Matthew 12:1-4.
2007-01-26
02:19:41 ·
update #8
The Bible does not say that David and his men were on the verge of starving to death because there was no other food to be found. In fact, according to geographical authorities, Nob was just north of the Mount of Olives, within a few miles of Jerusalem and many towns. A direct reading of the account allows for the conclusion that David and his men were basically hungry and seeking a meal from someone whom they trusted. Similarly, the Bible tells us that when Jesus’ disciples “got hungry” on the sabbath they gleaned and ate some grain. They must have eaten on the previous day, and on the day after the sabbath they could buy food in surrounding villages. (John 4:8; Matthew 14:15) So, if an individual wants to use these incidents to show when God’s laws can be broken, he might as well say that at any time people ‘get hungry’ it is all right to violate Jehovah’s commands. Obviously that is not correct.
2007-01-26
02:21:52 ·
update #9
The REASONS for not eating strangled meat, blood, things sacrificed to idols was not only to avoid stumbling those weak in faith, BUT ALSO as Acts 15:29 states “YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!” The word Health there is unqualified, which means it can mean Good [PHYSICAL, SPIRITUAL] health to You. It was described as a necessary thing, to those who join the Christian congregation, to follow Acts 15:29. By following those, you are in fact following the instructions of the apostles and the holy spirit.
2007-01-26
02:31:09 ·
update #10
Jesus never taught that one's life (or another's) was more important than one's integrity and obedience to God. The account of Matthew 12:1-12 certainly does not teach that...
What Jesus' contemporary critics (and some today apparently) forgot was that the Jewish Mosaic Law was a command of God; it did *NOT* devolve from the opinions of those Pharisaical religious leaders. As the perfect Son of God, Jesus knew better than anyone exactly what behavior did or did not demonstrate proper subjection to Jehovah and to that Law, including its provisions regarding the Sabbath.
Jesus never violated the actual sabbath law.
What do the Scriptures teach about the relative importance of integrity and the earthly life a human might now cherish?
(Matthew 10:28) And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but rather be in fear of him that can destroy both soul and body
(Matthew 16:25) For whoever wants to save his soul will lose it; but whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it.
(Luke 12:4,5) Do not fear those who kill the body and after this are not able to do anything more. But I will indicate to you whom to fear: Fear him who after killing has authority to throw into [the grave without hope of resurrection]
(Luke 17:33) Whoever seeks to keep his soul safe for himself will lose it, but whoever loses it will preserve it alive.
(Revelation 12:11) And they conquered ...because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death.
Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/rq/index.htm?article=article_10.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/dg/index.htm?article=article_05.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/lmn/index.htm?article=article_11.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/jt/index.htm?article=article_08.htm
2007-01-25 06:14:01
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answered by achtung_heiss 7
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Ok, for the first question,
I would die before I sin.
If I have to die rather than commit fornication , then I die.
ev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
If Someone dies because I withheld information, then they die, it is not me who killed them, but they who did so.
I would not have a guilty conscience about it.
As for the stranded Island thing.
God provided manna for the Isrealites coming out from egypt, God can provide for me as well.
I have faith enough.
Mat 17:20 "You didn't have enough faith," Jesus told them. "I assure you, even if you had faith as small as a mustard seed you could say to this mountain, `Move from here to there,' and it would move. Nothing would be impossible."*
2007-01-25 05:45:22
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes, you would be a true Christian, regardless if it was a loved one that was about to die at the hands of the enemy, or yourself refusing to fornicate to save your life. As long as you don't fold and do it.
That's how it will be upon the mark of the beast being introduced. You take it or else... they will use your loved ones as well against you... it depends on how strong your FAITH will be. Will you fold and give in to the lie or will you choose DEATH to live forever and ever with our heavenly Father?
2007-01-25 05:42:38
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answered by Anonymous
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Fornication, no; I would die first.
The 2nd question doesn't make sense. If I could save someone's life just by telling someone his whereabouts, of course I would do that. As far as I can see, that wouldn't even be a sin and the person whose life I saved would probably be glad I did it.
As you know, I would eat unbled meat before I would starve to death. But I would starve before eating human flesh. God gave us animal flesh to eat, but not human and that would be too big of a stretch for me. But eating unbled animal meat, though a sin, is not a serious sin like fornication, in my opinion.
Although I would eat the unbled meat, I would never say that it wasn't a sin. But on a scale of 1 to 10, it would not rate a 10.
Would running a red light to avoid an accident that could kill a carload of people be a sin? Technically, yes. You would be breaking the law - man's law and also God's law since the Bible says to obey the law of the land. I would do that and throw myself on the mercy of the court and pay whatever price that was exacted. If I found myself in a situation where I had to choose between life or the letter of the law, I would do what I had to do, ask for forgiveness and rely on God's mercy. I personally believe God would forgive me for eating meat that wasn't bled because he knows my heart and knows I don't take his laws lightly. If he didn't forgive me, then I would have to pay the price.
Once more, I would not say I didn't sin. I would admit I sinned and trust in a merciful Father.
I would also like to say that although I would die before eating human flesh, there are others that might resort to that in dire circumstances. It's happened before. As far as I know, that is not the unforgiveable sin , so even though I wouldn't do it, I would not go so far as to say that God couldn't forgive someone who did.
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Thanks, that makes more sense. I would rather die than be responsible for someone else dying, so in that case I would not tell the whereabouts. At least that is what I hope and believe I would do. Even Peter gave into cowardice when he denied Jesus, so I guess none of us actually know what we would do in a situation like that unless we actually are in that situation.
FINAL EDIT
Acts 15 says to abstain from foods sacrificed from idols. But 1 Cor. 10:25-30, says to eat whatever you want including foods sacrificed to idols. The only reason for not eating was to avoid stumbling those weak in faith. You didn’t even have to be starving and Paul said it’s OK. So would it make sense to die rather than eat food sacrificed to an idol? Not in my book. If an idol is nothing to you, then eating the “sacrifice” is not idolatry.
Lev 17:15 says that if someone eats a body already dead, he must wash his garments, bathe in water and be unclean until evening. Could fornication, murder or some SERIOUS sin be atoned for so easily? It’s interesting that “don’t eat blood” isn’t even one of the Ten Commandments.
Deliberately choosing to run a red light is not ‘accidental’, it’s deliberate if you could have stopped and you chose not to David didn’t ‘accidentally’ eat the showbread; he chose to do it. To seriously suggest that he should have starved instead of eating the showbread which was NOT LAWFUL is indicative of a legalistic, Pharasaical mindset.
If you put yourself into a hypothetical situation - one that you hope you will never actually be in - and determine that you might “eat the showbread”, I guess someone could call that “premeditated sin” if they wanted to make it sound like a really bad thing. You could also call healing on the Sabbath a violation of the Sabbath law - that’s what the Pharisees called it. Jesus, however, said it wasn’t a violation because he didn’t subscribe to the strict legalistic technicalities that the Pharisees were so fond of. Jesus understood the intent of the law while the Pharisees could only comprehend the letter of the law. Same law, different interpretation. Personally, I prefer Jesus’ interpretation - the one where you keep the law without putting your brain and common sense in your back pocket.
2007-01-25 09:14:31
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answered by Anonymous
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First you survive because there ain't no after. You do your very best to survive at any cost.Once you survive the situation you can go through all the phony prayer ceremonies you feel like they wont mean anything anyway but at least you survived.
BB, Boop Oop A Doop!
2007-01-25 05:47:49
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answered by Anonymous
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If we sinned and ADMIT we sinned and repent, then God will show us MERCY. If we insist that we do not SIN after breaking God’s Laws, then we are liars. Remember FAITHFULNESS to God is also part of the weightier matters of the Law.
EXACTLY!
2007-01-25 05:37:02
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answered by whynotaskdon 7
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I think it's okay to fornicate to save your life. Then you can just go sign up for Jesus Camp, and repent and God will show you mercy.
2007-01-25 05:40:14
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answered by MyPreshus 7
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You're nutty--what the hell pills did you take?
Why are you asking such a strange question?
Religion is only real to those who believe in it--like Voodoo. Basically, if you live by the non-religious Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you," you'll be fine.
Now apply the Golden Rule to your situation and work out the answer.
2007-01-25 05:39:49
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answered by f8_smyled 3
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The criticisms of the Jews in the Quran resulted in the persecution of Jews in Muslim lands--often slavery, deportation, land expropriation, and massacres, resulting from the permanent, uniquely Islamic institutions of jihad and dhimmitude.
They had to wear on their clothes the image of an ape. Specifically, the 9th century Tunisian Qadi, Ahmed b. Talib compelled the dhimmi Jews to wear upon their shoulder a patch of white cloth (riqa') that bore the image of an ape, [the Christians were required to wear the image of a pig], and to nail onto their doors a board bearing the sign of a monkey. Apes are mentioned in Judaic texts, but zoomorphic signs were never imposed in the Jewish kingdoms, as was done for Jews and Christians in Islamic lands. Hence the actual implementation of such discriminatory zoomorphic badges is particular to Islam, and the reasons for this must be examined independently, and honestly, without any reference to Judaism.
Jihadists today invoke the Quran to justify the worst terrorist crimes. Throat slitting of infidels is mentioned in the Quran. Al-Mawardi (d. 1058), the prominent 11th century jurist quoted this verse, specifically, « When you encounter those who deny (the Truth) then strike (their) necks. » (Quran 47 :4), in his learned discussion of jihad. This ritual execution is also mentioned in other Muslim legal texts and in narratives of Christian and prominent Muslim historians. Today it is performed against infidels and recorded on videotape for the edification of Muslim audiences.
2007-01-25 05:38:37
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answered by Ivri_Anokhi 6
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When I sin, I admit my mistake to God and repent it. That is truly what we are to do when we sin. I fully take responsibility for my sin and want to be forgiven for it. Not just by God, but if I hurt someone, I also want them to know I am truly sorry.
God bless!!
2007-01-25 05:38:51
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answered by inlovew/jesus 2
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