What can I say to my neighbor who had 3 abortions before she was saved?

Question

Okay, help me. This is for real, not a friend of a friend of a friend. She really stands outside with her dog and tries to provoke me. We built our dream home in the country and she walks down where we get the mail. And I wind up upset and feeling stupid. Okay she's around 50 or 60 and she openly admits she had 3 abortions throughout her 20's. It gets trickier here and I fail. She says an aborted fetus is "shot-gunned" into Heaven(?) So she wants to know why she can't be forgiven for that as though she did what was best (and expedient) for the "fetus"? I realize she wants God to forgive her or she wouldn't provoke me. But I need some effective answers that don't take all day because it's cold outside and she won't come over. Seriously. This deal is AFTER her having 3 abortions and if I get sassy with her she will consider that God's failure not mine! I am put on the spot to help her and I will. I'm not worried about my soul or spirit though so that helps. Help Me? What do I say?

I said she was saved. So she's forgiven, especially if she has no more abortions which she can't if she's as old as I think she is. I don't mean to whine. I just want to tell her something practical and truthful without giving her a homework assignment that she won't do!! I can't preach to her, she's just waiting for that!! Only answer if you can see the big picture. It's a one shot thing. Then she will cut me off BUT I will have made a step toward God for her. It's a rough hole to play and I can't just play through!!! Yes, I have prayed and studied every day!!! Thank you in advance for your time and concern.

GOD BLESS YOU OBVIOUSLY!!!

AND YES, I FEEL THE PRESENCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND I WORSHIP JESUS AS THE SON OF HIS FATHER, GOD. ONE LADY WONDERED DOWN THERE SO YES! I AM SAVED. AND I DO WANT TO HELP! THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT TO BLOW THIS! DREAM HOME SCREAM HOME OR WHATEVER! IT'S HER PEACE OF MIND I WORRY ABOUT!
AND IT'S TRUE THAT SOME PEOPLE JUDGE GOD, INSTEAD OF THE OPPOSITE, BY THE WAY CHRISTIANS ACT. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME WAY SHE KNEW I LOVED GOD, BUT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, I'M ASHAMED TO SAY. I PRAY ABOUT HER AND I STUDY MY BIBLE AND I WON'T EVER GIVE UP. THIS LADY JUMPED RIGHT INTO MY LAP. THIS SHOULD BE EASY FOR ME BUT IT'S NOT! I LOVE
HER FOR WORRYING HERSELF TO DEATH TRYING TO PLEASE GOD, BUT SURELY HE MUST KNOW THAT! I'M NOT GOD OR JESUS BUT I AM A CHRISTIAN FOR SURE AND FOREVER.
NO BETTER THAN MY NEIGHBOR BY ANY MEANS. I SURE HOPE SHE DOESN'T BUY A PC LIKE I'VE BEEN TELLING HER TO! SHE MIGHT CATCH ME UP TO MY WHINING HERE! God Bless You People for giving a hoot about my situation here.

Answer 1

If she is saved, all of her sins are cleansed by the blood of the Lamb. All is forgiven. As it is written: "As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us." (Psalm 103:12)

As to the aborted fetus being "shot-gunned" into heaven, that is bad theology. There is no "age of accountability" in the Bible. That is a Jewish tradition, not a biblical concept.

The only mention of a child's standing before God is found in I Corinthians 7:14, "For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified because of her husband. Otherwise, your children would be unclean, but now they are holy."

Regardless of all that, as I mentioned previously, all prior sins are cleansed by the blood through her repentance when she came to Christ.

Answer 2

Personally, I'd go get my mail after she already picked hers up.
She's not only confused, she doesn't have all her paddles in the water. You said she had 3 abortions before she was saved - so I'm getting here that she is a "saved" christian woman? If that is the case, and she won't come over to your house to talk, tell her this:
Our loving Father would take back that fetus, of course. Thank God for that. As far as you being forgiven, repent. Thats all you can do while still in the flesh. As far as it being best for the fetus- tell her she's talking about three people who didn't have a chance to live - and not only them, but what about the guilt for all those children and grandchildren that were not born because of the abortions. She didn't only kill 3, we don't even know the number of births she interrupted. I'd tell her, look - if you want to be forgiven, repent - but don't solicit me to congratulate you on abortions you had, or you'll be standing out here in the snow a real long time. Its up to God whether you will be forgiven or not. Theres no sense hashing it out with me. Talk to God.
Sometimes you need to take a hard line on stuff. The woman sounds like a wack job to me.

Answer 3

Wait, doesn't the Bible say that Jesus is the ONLY name by which men may be saved? If so, then a fetus doesn't know the name of Jesus and can't be saved, so it would go to hell. On the other hand, if Jesus loves all the little children of the world, that would include fetuses, too, right? Would he send someone to hell if he loved them? Maybe she's right and babies get "shot-gunned" into heaven because they're cute and innocent. If so, then every woman should abort her babies to ensure that they never sin and will go straight to heaven, right? 'Cause you know, heaven is so wonderful and all. In any case, all this woman has to do is ask forgiveness and she gets an instant ticket into heaven. Isn't that how it works--no matter what sin you've committed, you ask forgiveness and God pretends the sin never happened? Gee, you ARE in a bit of bind. Too bad God never thought to address the issue of abortion in his holy book, then you could just turn to it for help, but I guess he was in a hurry to get it published. Good luck, though.

Btw, you could just tell her, "I don't know, this is an issue between you and God. Nice day, isn't it?" and smile sweetly. That would let you off the hook easily.

Answer 4

Keep on loving her. Don't stop talking to her. You don't have to say everything at once. She can be forgiven for the abortions. God is willing to forgive....But if she keeps on talking about it, maybe she can't forgive herself. Pray for wisdom every time you go to talk to her. Research the subject as much as you can so you are knowledgeable about abortions and the hurts/scars that that leaves behind...Maybe ask your minister if anyone in your church has had an abortion so you could get a Christian perspective to be able to share. And trust that Lord will give you the words to say when you need to say them. Also, know that the Christians here on this list will be praying for you too.

Answer 5

Forget the whole abortion thing as it is a trick of Satan to cloud the main issue. We all are sinners and she is no worse than you or I in needing Christ. By your words and conduct show and tell her what Jesus has done for you and how you are saved by His sacrifice and nothing you have done. Forget needless controversies and don't single out any sin. And if she harasses you for being a Christian it should not bother you as she is the one to be pitied not knowing the forgiveness of sin. If you are in Christ than all things are yours. Your a child of the living God. You can and should have compassion on others and deal kindly with them as God has dealt kindly with you even though you are a sinner and in reality you still are. Let your light shine by your good works.

Answer 6

You could say:
"You became a Christian, right?"
LADY: Right.
"You talk to God, right?"
LADY: Right.
"Just ask Him to forgive you. Debating with me about how you just did the babies a favor shows that you're still thinking about it and it's eating at you. You know what you did was wrong; I think, you feel guilty. Pray. Say you're sorry. Mean it. Ask God to forgive you. He will. He loves you. K? If it doesn't go away immediately, relax. Keep talking to Him about it. You'll be fine. He'll heal you."
Smile (nicely) and start to walk away. Say, "If you wanna talk, I'm over here."

The whole shotgun deal? I think that means they just go directly to heaven. If she's Catholic, that means no purgatory or anything like that, I believe. Idk for sure, though.

Your question was interesting, and I wonder what you mean when you say you're not worried about your soul. Are you a Christian and you mean you're secure in your faith? Or you don't believe one way or another and you just want this poor woman to have some peace?
Anyway, good luck with your neighbor!
God bless!

btw, you could say a prayer before you deal with her: "God, put the words in my mouth, speak through me and help me to be a witness to this woman who needs to feel your forgiveness. In Jesus' name, Amen!"

Answer 7

Tell her the truth. When she aborted her babies she did that for her own selfish reasons and not to "shot-gun" her unborn child into Heaven. When she finally accepts that she sinned, then she can ask for forgiveness and receive it. She's living in denial still.

May God Bless you.

Answer 8

Well Jesus forgave the woman accused of prostitution and said, where are they that accuse you after he asked them to only cast the first stone if they also had not sinned. And then he told her to go and not to sin again.

Just say to the woman, I'm not going to judge your past coz I have sins of my own to worry about. Let's be friends from this moment on.

But then again, if she's really wierd you could always move house.

Hope this helps.

Answer 9

If she has truly believed that the Lord Jesus Christ died for her sins the all her sins have been forgiven. You can tell her what the Lord Jesus Christ did for her on the cross. He died for her sins, He was buried and took her sins away and He rose again the third day for her justification and since she trusted in that all her sins are under the blood of Christ. Romans 5: 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Answer 10

Don't say anything. From what you've written, you have judged her and you have no right to do so. "Let he (she) who be without sin cast the first stone." Jesus would not have judged this woman so why should you. Let her walk her own path and pray for her. Love her as the child of God that she is.