If Jesus and God are one and the same,as in the Holy Trinity?

Question

Doesn't that mean he got his own mother pregnant?

Answer 1

Lol, no. Look at it this way. Look at the sun (the one in the sky). Its one thing but three at the same time. Look at it as God is the sun, Jesus is the rays, and the Holly Spirit is the heat we feel from the sun. Its one thing but three at the same time. Thats the best example I could give you to help understand how God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one but seperate at the same time.

We arent supposed to understand that.. our minds cant understand how that could possibly be possible! But its how it is..believe it or not..there are things far more complicated than you and I out there and we are not gonna be able to come to a complete logical conclusion to everything.

Answer 2

The Father and the Son existed before the start of time. Holy Trinity means that, one God, three persons. You cannot comapre the Holy Trinity to a three-in-one coffee or an egg that is divided to shell, egg white, aand the yolk. The Son (Jesus) is not a part of God but He is our Lord. We commonly use the term "God" to the Father. They are the same. Let us forget bout the "mother pregnant" thing because it is not sensible.

Answer 3

At least you don't think God is a woman! Humans must gain understanding of God through faith not by our own screwed-up logic. Nevertheless, logically it is better to believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit than to not believe - considering the consequences (You'll figure it out).

God always existed - sorry, no mother. Now, this is a concept I'll never understand in my finite thinking yet I choose to believe it. I know, then there's the concept that Jesus is God incarnate, born of a virgin. Still I believe. It takes an initial step of faith in personally knowing God and in trusting His wisdom when we don't know the answers or (in some cases) the question.

Answer 4

I am a JW and we do NOT believe in the Trinity because the Bible does not prove it. God is Jehovah and his son is Jesus.

Jesus came to earth and died for our sins. What a loving provision made by our father, having his son do this for us.

What gets me is how different ones think that Jesus is god and he came to earth and died and then resurrected himself. I guess he also prayed to himself. He also must have said "the father is greater than I" and been referring to himself.

Jesus (Jehovahs Son) came to earth and died so that we might have the hope of everlasting life.

Think about it.... Did Jesus and his disciples teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Keep in mind that the Scriptures are “inspired of God” and are to be used for “setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:16, 17) So the Bible is complete in doctrinal matters. If the Trinity doctrine is true, it should be there.

We invite you to search the Bible, especially the 27 books of the Christian Greek Scriptures, to see for yourself if Jesus and his disciples taught a Trinity. As you search, ask yourself:

1. Can I find any scripture that mentions “Trinity”?

2. Can I find any scripture that says that God is made up of three distinct persons, Father, Son, and holy spirit, but that the three are only one God?

3. Can I find any scripture that says that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom?

Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity, nor will you find any that says that Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. Not even a single scripture says that the Son is equal to the Father in those ways—and if there were such a scripture, it would establish not a Trinity but at most a “duality.” Nowhere does the Bible equate the holy spirit with the Father.

Trinitarians may say that the Bible “implies” a Trinity. But this claim is made long after the Bible was written. It is an attempt to read into the Bible what clergymen of later times arbitrarily decided should be doctrine.

Ask yourself: Why would the Bible only “imply” its most important teaching—who God is? The Bible is clear on other basic teachings; why not on this, the most important one? Would not the Creator of the universe author a book that was clear on his being a Trinity if that were the case?

The reason the Bible does not clearly teach the Trinity doctrine is simple: It is not a Bible teaching. Had God been a Trinity, he would surely have made it clear so that Jesus and his disciples could have taught it to others. And that vital information would have been included in God’s inspired Word. It would not have been left to imperfect men to struggle with centuries later.

When we examine texts offered by Trinitarians as evidence that the Bible “implies” a Trinity, what do we find? An honest appraisal reveals that the scriptures offered do not speak of Christendom’s Trinity. Instead, theologians try to force into the scriptures their preconceived ideas of a Trinity. But those ideas are not in the scripture texts. In fact, those Trinitarian ideas conflict with the clear testimony of the Bible as a whole.

An example of such texts is found at Matthew 28:19, 20. There the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit are mentioned together. Some claim that this implies a Trinity. But read the verses yourself. Is there anything in those texts that says that the three are one God equal in eternity, power, position, and wisdom? No, there is not. It is the same with other texts that mention the three together.

As for those who see Trinitarian implications at Matthew 28:19, 20 in the use of “name” in the singular for the Father, Son, and holy spirit, please compare the use of “name,” singular, for Abraham and Isaac at Genesis 48:16.—King James Version; New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures.

Trinitarians also point to John 1:1 in some translations, where “the Word” is spoken of as being “with God” and as being “God.” But other Bible translations say that the Word was “a god” or was “divine,” meaning not necessarily God but a powerful one. Furthermore, that Bible verse says that “the Word” was “with” God. That would reasonably exclude him from being that same God. And no matter what is concluded about “the Word,” the fact is that only two persons are mentioned at John 1:1, not three. Over and over again, all texts used to try to support the Trinity doctrine utterly fail to do so when examined honestly.

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Answer 5

What are you stupid or what? What kind of a question is that, it doesn't make any sense? How can you make your own mother pregnant and still be born of your mother the second time?
I think you're confused, stop understanding the bible the way the Devil wants you to understand it and if you don't understand it PLEASE read it thoroughly. Blasphemy!

Answer 6

That's why you can't find the word "trinity" in the Bible. The son is not the father and the father is not the son.

Answer 7

yeah, but if your god the rules only apply to the locals.

Answer 8

Nasty.