History of the Queen of Heaven whom the catholic worship?

Question

Since it is easily proven that the doctrines of Mary as Redemptrix (sic., female of Redeemer) and of Mary as 'Queen of Heaven' did not come from the Bible, the question arises, "Where did they come from?!" Indeed, where did such concepts first occur in recorded history? The answer is found in several historical documents, as described below.
BABYLON MYSTERY RELIGION. History shows that the concept of a 'mother of god,' the 'Queen of Heaven,' who 'dispenses all grace' first arose on the plain of Shinar (in modern-day Iraq), in the city of Babylon, built by Nimrod (Genesis 10:8-10) in direct disobedience to God's commands. There, in ancient Babylon, the mother-goddess Semaramis, pictured with an infant son at her breast, was called the "Queen of Heaven" and the "Mother of God." She also had the appellation "the hope of the whole world." Does any of this sound familiar? (Source: Dionusiaca, Lib. Xii, in Bryant, Vol iii, page 226).

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Do you know the story of Babylon? It is most interesting. You can read it in Genesis 11:1-9. God confounded the speech of the people, forcing them to spread out across the earth in groups that shared the same language. Guess what they brought with them? You are right; they brought their false religion with them. The only things that differed were the names of their 'deities' and some minor details.

CHINA'S 'HOLY MOTHER' Thus you can find Semaramis and Tammuz appearing in ancient China as Shing Moo, the "holy mother," with a golden circle around her head. (Source: Crabb's Mythology, Page 150. Also found in LePerelafitan, Les des Savages Ameriquains, Volume 1, page 235.)

EGYPTS 'DIVINE MOTHER' Yet again the 'divine mother' appears in Egypt as Isis, with her 'divine son' Horus (Osiris), with the same claims to being the 'mother of god' and 'mediator of forgiveness.' It is also of interest to note that in Egypt, the supposed physical body of Horus (the savior)

was offered to believers in the form of a round, wafer-like bit of unleavened bread, with three letters imprinted thereon to signify the Egyptian trinity of Isis - Horus - Set. (Source: Bunsen, Volume i, page 438)

These letters, translated into the Latin language, are "IHS." and are imprinted on Rome's 'host.' The proffered meaning is "In Hoc Signos" (in this sign). It occurs to me that the phrase, "In This Sign" appears to have absolutely no meaning, no relationship to Rome's practice of the Eucharist. If there is a connection, it is not in evidence. Is in merely a coincidence of translation that the same English letters could stand for Isis-Horus-Set? If nothing else, it matches perfectly with the original Egyptian practice of eating a wafer-god.

My Roman Catholic surfers will easily recognize this symbolism. For my non-Catholic surfers, I should tell you that this is the exact same form used in the Roman Catholic Eucharist; only the names have been changed.

All else remains as it was thousands of years ago in Egypt, and before that in Babylon. Without realizing it, our Catholic friends, thinking they worship Mary and Jesus Christ, really worship Semaramis and Tammuz.

ROME'S 'HOLY MOTHER' Rome freely admits to 'borrowing' many icons, images, concepts and beliefs from the ancient mystery religions, in order to 'Christianize' them. Yet the Bible mentions these particular beliefs only five times (Jeremiah 7:18-19; 44:17-19, 25), and in each case it is with a scathing indictment of the concept itself! God Himself condemned the concept of 'queen of heaven' and 'mother of god!'

When Rome adopted the pagan symbols and doctrines about a 'queen of heaven,' a 'divine mother,' a 'mediatrix of all graces,' a 'mother of god,' and the idea of a reborn redeemer's body and blood being physically present in a wafer of unleavened bread, only one thing changed - the names! All else remained intact. Thus do Roman Catholic believe and worship false gods based, not on the Bible, but on occult sources that God condemns.

Can you folks in the catholic church please explain rev 18 to me it is about your church or did you know that.

Can you prove mary is a co-redeemer with Christ who is the only savior God has sent?

Answer 1

Thanks for you statement. I agree, keep up the good work.

Answer 2

You should read "Hail Holy Queen!," by Scott Hahn a former Evangelical scripture theologian on the idea of Mary as Queen. You would be very surprised that the ideas are not only not easy to "disprove," they form the fabric of early Christianity.

Second, some your your references to history are only useful if you provide meaningful reference data.

Third, just to give you some things to think about, Jewish Queens were the mothers of the King not the wives. Since most of the Kings were polygamous, to name one Queen would have been to play favorites and that would have had consequences. Simply look at Bathsheeba and Solomon. He rises in her presence, though all otherwise rise to Solomon. You will see that all others but her rise in his presence. You will see the pattern throughout the Davidic dynasty. Jewish and all near Eastern queens were the mothers not the wife of a king.

Fourth, if you just look at Revelations you will see Mary with a crown and the crown is the twelve tribes. If you look at the Wedding Feast of Cana, if you do the math, it is on the seventh day. Like a queen, she did not direct her son to do anything, but like a queen directed the servant to "do what he tells you." And Jesus, without being commanded performs the miracle expected of him by his mother.

Finally, if she is not the mother, who is she? She is the daughter and servant of the Most High, the Supreme King and Father of Heaven, she is the mother of our Most Holy Lord and Master Jesus Christ and she is the Spouse of the Holy Spirit. Only Menno Simmons in the mediaeval period made the argument that he was not her son, that he basically just appeared.

I suggest you read a little more.

Answer 3

+ Mother of God, Queen of Heaven +

Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ, who is God the Son, and therefore can be addressed as the Mother of God.

This is similar to a commoner who marries a king and becomes the mother of the next king. She is entitled to the title Queen and Mother of the King even though she is not royalty.

Nobody two hundred, five hundred or a thousand years ago would have been confused about it. But this is hard for people to understand in these times where royalty and kings and queens are few and far between.

+ Redemptrix +

The idea of Mary be a redemptrix or co-redeemer is NOT Catholic doctrine.

You will not find this unpopular idea expressed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church: http://www.nccbuscc.org/catechism/text/

+ Mary and the Saints +

Catholics share the belief in the Communion of Saints with many other Christians, including the Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, Episcopal, and Methodist Churches.

The Communion of Saints is the belief where all saints are intimately related in the Body of Christ, a family. When you die and go to heaven, you do not leave this family.

Everyone in heaven or on their way to heaven are saints, you, me, my deceased grandmother, Mary the mother of Jesus, and Mother Teresa.

As part of this family, you may ask your family and friends living here on earth to pray for you. Or, you may also ask the Blessed Virgin Mary, Saint Andrew, or your deceased grandmother living in heaven to pray for you.

Prayer to saints in heaven is simple communication, not worship.

With love in Christ.

Answer 4

um ... goddess worship is far more ancient than Judaic literature. a small fertility goddess carving found in Israel dates back some 220,000 years. the worship of feminine divinity was made evil by ambitious men who cemented a male dominated hierarchy by outlawing the worship of a goddess and creating a myth in which a male god usurps the birthing process and woman is made into a guilty scapegoat of sin thus setting the stage for the oppression and enslavement of womanhood for the following millennium.

you seem to think you have some historical perspective... try digging a bit deeper (like by about 212,000 years) and from a more objective point of view, oh thou with a penis.

Answer 5

I know of that book. Read the two babylons by Hislop as well. Most of what your book got it's info from came from this one. There is another book that talks about the eight mother/son virgin birth religions before Jesus, it is called the secret teachings of all ages by Manly P. Hall.

Answer 6

Catholics dont ''worship" Mary--they do revere her. Nor doe Catholics believe she is a female Redeemer. The rest of your "history" is also inaccurate.

You really should check your facts. Otherwise people will come to the conclusion you are an ignorant fool, a religious bigot, or both.

Answer 7

I'm sorry, my eyes started bleeding right before Babylon Mystery Religion.

What was the question again?

Answer 8

If you want more information: please look at this site below.
It tells about the LADY OF NATIONS; the origin of the "Madonna".
'"mother of God" and "Queen of Heaven"
http://www.lcg.org/search/search.php?query=lady+of+nations&%24results_per_page=10&search=1

There's plenty of sites on the two babylons by Alexander Hislop.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-&p=the%20two%20babylons%20by%20alexander%20hislop

(LCG site on the two babylons)
http://www.lcg.org/search/search.php?query=the+two+babylons&type=and&results=10&search=1
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Easter--Ishtar--The Queen of Heaven

EASTER
Note: these sites tell where Easter Eggs came from.
http://www.nobleknights.com/~eagle1/eostre1.htm
http://www.rightdivision.com/html/easter_pagan_influences.html

EASTER NOT FOUND IN THE BIBLE
"The English word 'Easter' came from the Anglo-Saxon Eastre or Estera, a Teutonic goddess to whom sacrifice was offered in April, so the name was transferred to the Pashal Feast. The word does not properly occur in Scripture although the AV (King James Translation) has it in ACTS 12:4 where it stands for 'Passover' as it is rightly rendered in RV (Revised Version). There is no trace of Easter celebration in the New Testament..." (INTERNATIONAL STANDARD BIBLE ENCYCLOPEDIA VOL.2, P.889). The word 'Easter' has confused some but the word in the original form is "Pascha" meaning "Passover". It occurs 29 times in the New Testament & everytime it's translated Passover except in Acts 12:4. If you read carefully (ACTS 12:1-4); it says that Herod killed James and was trying to kill Peter in an effort to "vex the church"(Please the Jews). Then in VERSE 3 "were the days of unleavened bread"; see LEV.23. He put him in prison intending to try him "after Easter" (KJV). Now if Herod was trying to "please the Jews" & "vex the church" Why would he have delayed the trial until after 'Easter?'" If this was a "christian holy day", especially one in honoring Christ's resurrection, he would surely not be pleasing the Jews, Wouldn't it be more pleasing to the Jews to vex the church by killing one of it's Apostles on it's own "holy-day," would it not?

ORIGIN OF EASTER: WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
Easter was never observed by the Apostles of Christ or Christ's Religion. "The name 'Easter' comes to us from the mythlogical writings of the Ancient Teucrians (who lived 1200BC along the southern coast of Palestine) where it's known as 'Ostern'" BY GROVER STEVENS. "The name 'Easter' is merely the slightly changed English spelling of the name of the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian idol goddess, Ishtar (pronounced eesh-tar)." WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY says "Easter is from the pre-historic name of a pagan spring festival." THE OXFORD DICTIONARY OF ENGLISH ETYMOLOGY says, "Easter is derived from the name of goddess whose feast was celebrated at the vernal equinox." THE SCHOLARY NEW SCHAFF-HERZOG RELIGIOUS ENCYCLOPEDIA says, "This goddess is also widely known as Astarte...The cult originated in Babylonia and spread to Assyria, Mesopotamia, Syria & Palestine, then through the Phoenicians to all of the Meditteranean peoples...Ishtar was in fact primarily and chiefly identified as Venus, the most beautiful of celestial objects & from the terrestrial side, the primarily motive of the worship of Ishtar was the impulse to deify sensuous and sensuality." ALEXANDER HISLOP SAYS IN THE TWO BABYLONS (P.103), "Easter bears its Chaldean origin on its forehead. Easter is nothing else than Asarte, one of the titles of Beltis, the queen of heaven..."
http://family.webshots.com/photo/1370351068049373547hLMhYB
http://www.matrifocus.com/IMB04/spotlight.htm
http://www.albatrus.org/english/festivals/easter/is_easter_pagan.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar
http://www.lcg.org/search/search.php?query=easter&type=and&results=10&search=1

VERSES-- DEUT.4:19,28-31; 11:26-28; 17:3 & GAL.4:8-10.
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Answer 9

only catholics believe that mary was god (in reference to christians) and does judiasm muslim or other christian beleifs believe in that im pretty sure baptists dont

Answer 10

We do not worship Mary, that is for God. We honor Mary with reverence.

Answer 11

To my knowledge us CATHOLICS DO NOT WORSHIP a QUEEN OF HEAVEN.We worship GOD.