Can a code design or create itself?

Question

Even if it is complex or simple? Or does it need a designer/maker?

DNA is a complex code. Are saying that every code needs a creator except the DNA which happens to evolve and have no creator?

Answer 1

nope
this doesnt work
we atheists are still atheists

this doesnt work it doesnt convert anyone

Answer 2

The intelligent design of life and procreation of life is evidence of the Creator, since intelligence can not form itself from nothing.
If so, where are these original models and why did they allow themselves to die? Now I suppose some incredible mythology will describe this, but why is it so hard to simply take our Genesis from the Book of Moses and see how all events and teachings intertwine around this arrangement, while various mythologies fail to satisfactorily explain anything. It seems that the wiser move to the higher degree of learning while the foolish stumble on the small but genuine fact.

Answer 3

A code or design can evolve into being, through no effort of itself, then proceed to use logic and create whatever it desires. Its product should be the main focus. Especially if the product is of its own image and carries many traits of the original.

Answer 4

You can create code that creates code, but the law states THE STUDENT IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE TEACHER, whereas with a human mind the STUDENT can become BETTER than the teacher for he stands on the shoulder of giants and can see futher. Code can't do this with intent. You can make code with random elements to allow for billions of permutations in design, but code can't become self aware, as far as we know (but sci fi authors say it can happen), and correct problems or flaw or inadequacies programmed in by the creator.

This is why we won't ever lick cancer or other diseases. We can try and trick the code, but the CREATOR of the code has instructed the CODE to succed not matter what, so the CODE uses a multitude of new permutations in a game of war against the medical field trying to block it at one avenue. The code simply, creates a new road the scientists hasn't envioned or saw before.

That, however, is technically a form of EVOLUTION, you understand.

If the code is from God, then the code is only as good as God or as good as God made the code. The code can't, theortically, become greater or smarter than God.

Man can't begin to beat God's code, for man is not nearly as smart as God.

Now, if MAN is in war with a MINDLESS, SOULESS RANDOM code that was generated accidentially, then theoretically MAN can overcome the code.

Man has the potential to be smarter than SERENDPITY or a freak accident of "mother nature" when MOTHER NATURE did NOT WILLFULL create the code with mental intellegence.

In short, MAN can beat the system if there is no God, but man will ALWAYS lose at some point if there is a God, for man is not as smart as God and will never be as smart for God was here long before man and has that EDGE, no matter how many GIANTS man stand upon.

You will note man is losing at all twists and turns. The "wonder drug" penicillin is now almost useless. The CODE in the body has started to EAT IT for supper.

MAn is planning to "beat cancer" and will succeed, but ONLY for a while, the BODY will rebel and the CODE will FIND A WAY to overcome man's interference with the GENOME PLAN.

This can happen both with God and with the Random Cosmic Casino, but if God doesn't exist man can eventually "beat the house" althought it could take 500,000 years to do that. Man, should, theoretically, NEVER be able to beat God or even stalemate.

Now, can the Cosmic Casino create CODE (DNA) without a CREATOR, again theoretically yes, BUT there has to be FIRM LAWS of behavior in existance.

The Cosmic Casino created inorganics and scientists could do and have done the same. That's how they REFINE U235 using centrifuges.

But you see, they use LAWS and RULES of behavior to get an expected result.

At the BIG BANG free postive and negative charges (don't ask where they came from, the BANG ITSELF, perhaps) were released and they JOINED or BONDED together to create hydrogen, hemlium, oxygen, nitrogen.

They follow rules, which is what the PERIODIC CHART is, a description of the RULES of atomic bonding.

This is how we REFINE heavy elements not found naturally, like U235, because we EXTRAPOLATE where they SHOULD BE on that Periodic chart, but aren't.

There would, therefore, have to be biological and chemical rules that make bonding of inorganics to form orgianics and we simply haven't found those laws or rules yet.

NO ONE (except one group who "claims" to have done, but no one can duplicate their work so it goes down with the "claims" to have made cold fusion) has done repeatedly in a laboratory.

IF rules of behavior in chemical bonding exist. It is possible to make DNA code randomly, but you'd only have "X" number of possible permutations and the LAWS of these permutations should be come self evident in LOWER LIFE FORMS such as Amoebas.

NO ONE has yet, made a PERIODIC CHART of GENTIC or DNA entities.

If you did, you'd eveutlaly find all the permutaitons and see how to make new genes with great ease. Just like the make U235.

This is where Genetics, Biology, Genomeonology and Evolution are hitting brick walls.

They have no firm understanding of the RULES and LAWS.

They are just tinkering. Expermenting and saying "they found something" when they succeed with some therapy like pencillin.

They are taking pot shots.

There are not "great" and "deep" thinkers in the field yet. There are not Newtons, no Einsteins. There is no one yet developing FIRM laws of BODIES IN MOTION and GRAVITY and then teaching us about RELATIVITY and how the NEWTONIAN FRAMEWORKS changes or doesn't work anymore.

All this is vastly missing from the fields of Evolution, Genetics, etc.

We can do some amazing things with Plants, but we have no firm laws to extrapolate from.

It's possibly a matter of the scientists look at the individual trees without understanding forestry.

Answer 5

Yes, actually.

Computation is possible any time there is an entropic gradient.

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No, I'm saying that you're entirely wrong. Codes do not need a designer/maker. An entropic gradient is sufficient for the self-creation of a coding system.

Answer 6

Yes to all 3 questions. It starts with a designer/maker, but "grows" from it's beginning. It is called Artifical Intelligence.

No fair. You added details after I had already answered.

Answer 7

what is your definition of "code"? Because your name makes me think that you are not using the actual definition. Are you talking about DNA? If so, we call DNA a "genetic code", but that does not mean it is an actual code at all.

Answer 8

Code can be designed and created from another code.

Answer 9

Codes are created to disguise meaning. If you look/seek hard enough you COULD possibly find what appears to be a code.

Answer 10

No it doesn't need a designer, see DNA.

Answer 11

SOMETHING started the universe itself, people like me just don't believe jeezus, muhammed, buhda, or bob had anything to do with it