I take it you love Saddam Hussain, Bin Laden, Jack the ripper, Ted bundy, Peadophilles, Satan etc. Do you love them like you love your parents?
2007-01-23 11:40:03 · 37 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
aaaaaaawwwwwwww, look at the non violent Christian history. Man do those guys know how to love. Yes just because some Christians do that doesnt mean we are all like that bla bla bla".
2007-01-23 11:53:55 · update #1
Some people are hideous inside and out - let's face it.
I have also heard that God sees all sin the same - not true. Is the sin of cheating your boss out of 1 minute of time the same as worshipping Satan? No. God sees some sins more heinous than others - granted, all sin leads to death.
When we think of some of the great sinners, Hitler, Hussein...we immediately focus on their murderous hearts as being the sole make up of their character. Their great authority over numbers of people allowed them to perform their dreadful deeds.
How many of us think about what kind of person we would be if we had control over nations with billions of dollars at our disposal and no one to ever dare tell us otherwise, we may find that our own hearts may invent evil as well.
Would we be the kind of people that would build churches, give to the poor, seek justice, love the things of God more with all the time we had, or would we be tempted to build up our own castles, suppress the poor, hate righteousness, worship anything but God?
Where would our labors focus?
I think once God allows us to see our own sins, I mean really see ourselves for who we are, I think only then we will be able to focus more on ourselves and be more gracious to others.
One thing I can say. I will never understand what it will be like to suffer in hell for all eternity as these godless men are presently doing. For this reason I would with love reach out to all men with at least one thing...the gospel of Christ.
I struggle with hating the sin but not the sinner. May God ever grant us more grace to love more. Corrie ten Boom discovered it.
2007-01-23 12:03:20 · answer #1 · answered by faithful 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Like most topics, you can find Biblical support for either side if you look hard enough. Shakespeare once wrote, “the devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.” That said, there are many passages in the Old Testament that support capital punishment, often for relatively mild offenses: - Adultery (Leviticus 20:10) - Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:16) - Breaking the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14 & 15) - Disobedient children (Exodus 21:15 & 17; Leviticus 20:9) - Homosexuality (Leviticus 20:13) - Not being a virgin on your wedding night (but only if you're a woman - Deuteronomy 22:20-21) Some people cite Romans 13:1-7, which states that all governments are sanctioned by God, and if the government dictates something – like capital punishment – then it is God’s will (one could also use this passage to legitimize abortion). However, I have yet to see a coherent reconciliation of this passage with governments like Hitler’s Germany, or Stalin’s Russia, or Pol Pot’s Cambodia, or any of the hundreds of others that were responsible for horrible atrocities throughout history. Governments are run by people, who are – inherently – imperfect. This is why the U.S. has a system of checks and balances, and why our laws are constantly changing (remember, there was a time when slavery was legal, when women couldn’t vote, when there were no child labor laws, etc.). This argument simply does not fly. The New Testament (starring Jesus) is primarily ANTI-death penalty. For example, in the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus praises mercy (Matthew 5:7) and rejects “an eye for an eye” (Matthew 5:38-39). James 4:12 says that GOD is the only one who can take a life in the name of justice. Romans 12:17-21 warns us against answering evil with evil, and assures us that God will see to justice in the afterlife. In John 8:7, Jesus says, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." There are many, many practical problems with capital punishment (that I won't get into here), but purely from a moral standpoint, it is pretty clear that Jesus did not support it. True CHRISTians shouldn’t, either.
2016-05-24 02:20:36 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you are 13 you still have time to correct intollerant thinking. If you love the sinner and hate the sin, usually implies that you actually know the sinner. And despite their transgressions you still have unconditional love for them.
I don't know Saddam Hussain, Bin Laden, Jack the ripper, Ted bundy, Peadophilles and Satan was never a human; so no I don't love them like I love my parents. If my parents were horrible people, the love might fade, but I would respect them as the people that brought me into the world.
As you grow you have a choice to allow other people to be who they are. If you insist on being so critical, you will stunt your own growth.
2007-01-23 11:51:11 · answer #3 · answered by act as if 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, we know what we are saying. We hate the sin but love the sinners. We are all created from God and in the likeness of God. God loves us unconditionally and commands us to love one another the same way. If we cannot love each other, then we cannot love God. Love is not based on what people say or do, it is greater and deeper than that. Even the heathen say they love a person when they say and do everything that pleases them. That is not love, that is selfishness. Love is only love when it is tested. It is sin that makes a person do evil and become evil. We, as Christina's hate the sin and hate the evil, but we also love the person under that sin. We know that the person is a child of God, led astray. WE have hope that they will convert and be born again. All people have worth and value. If we cannot see the value of all people, than it is no wonder that society has so many hate crimes, and societal problems.
Satan is the exception. He has no good in him. He has already been defeated by God and cast into hell. He is not a person, nor ever was a person. He is a fallen angel, a spirit of the Lords that rebelled and was condemned to Hell.
I think the problem you are having is understanding God. Seek the way, the truth and the light and will God will show you himself.
2007-01-23 11:51:58 · answer #4 · answered by Shayna 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, I love Saddam like I love my mother. What kind of thing is that to say? That would be totally unrealistic.I do not have a warm and fuzzy feeling for these people that you mentioned, however I do feel very sad that a human being could be so evil and end up in hell for eternity. That is very sad. As far as sin goes. If you are a parent and your child does something like robs the corner store. Do you still love the child? Yes, Do, you hate what he has done? Yes, that is what loving the sinner but hate the sin means.
2007-01-23 12:05:38 · answer #5 · answered by angel 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
"Hate the sin but love the sinner" is basically how a lot of Christians think God feels about sinners. It's typically used when a person is know for a particular vice. Like Jeffrey Dahmer, he is a really big sinner and someone who would go to hell in any religion. If you were to ask a clergyman about how God feels about him the clergy would probably state that God loves Jeffrey Dahmer but hates his sin, since God's love is all-forgiving, and that God might get a bad reputation if people say that God hates people who sin. It's also used to try to develop compassion in the hearts of Christians when dealing with a sinner.
2007-01-23 12:01:43 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
The "Love" the Bible is speaking about has little to do with emotion or even likeing a person. It is purely a sacrificial love that wishes the best for others.
The New Testament was written in Greek. This language has at least four words that could be translated "love".
Agape: the sacrificial love which expects nothing back but only cares about what is good for another person.
Philos: a love of affinity, where we enjoy another person's company.
Eros: sexual love
Storgae: love within a family for one another.
So, NO agape is not the same as storgae.......and neither is like "philos".
(Phil adelphia) "the city of brotherly love" adelphos =brother
2007-01-23 12:00:34 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I've never used this expression, per se, but I know what it means. It is the sin that we should hate, not the person who sinned. We all sin (so if we hate the sinner we would have to hate everyone): "Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good." Romans 12:9 (NIV)
We were all made in God's image (yes, even Saddam Hussain). Those that choose a path apart from God will face judgement by God, but even my enemy deserves my love - for it was God who graced us first with His love, even though we sinned and are far from deserving His love. It is by Jesus Christ that our sins are cleansed, so my love for sinners pleads that they come to believe in Jesus Christ that their sins would be washed away, that they would accept the same invitation my parents received to spend eternity with God in his Kingdom.
2007-01-23 11:55:57 · answer #8 · answered by In God I Trust (a.k.a. infohog) 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
While I understand your point, Sarky, you are exhibiting hatred in your question. Hating the sin and loving the sinner are most often not interchangeable. Check out Flandargo there. He says "Who am I to exclude ANYONE" yet condemns those who are homosexual." He does not speak with reason and quite obviously hates whom he THINKS is the sinner - goodness knows Flandargo never sinned in his life. I think reasoning like his has filled you to the brim with frustration and anger. I have been in that spot before. Too many people judge and then say they only do it because they "love" and it is hypocritical nonsense.
2007-01-23 16:29:30 · answer #9 · answered by Me, Thrice-Baked 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Think about this a moment, if they were all Christians would they have done what they did. I am a Christian and can feel sorry for those that hate Christians, even Saddam Hussein. It is the action of the person, not the person that is disliked. It is like someone having a life threatening disease, would you hate the person or the disease? Same difference metaphorically speaking.
2007-01-23 11:49:13 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋