if some christians say Jesus is not God, why do you insist on worshiping the Trinity?

Question

from my previous question i read some answers from christians who agree that Jesus isn't God but a son of God instead.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AutPs.eB0.lxFJjLBgfOBZrsy6IX?qid=20070123091746AAlsaE5

ok if that was the cause then why do you insist that God, Jesus and holyspirit are all one ? worshiping the trinity means that you worship God, Jesus and holyspirit.
if you already know that God is your only God, then why do you worship partner beside him? why do you insist in worshiping the trinity and u well aware that Jesus asked you to worship only the God who sent him? why?

Answer 1

Unfortunately some so called christians say Jesus isn"t God, which is tantamount to destroying the very essence of Christianity. I"m catholic and believe what the infallible authority of the church teaches:Jesus is God , the second person of the Holy trinity who came into the world to redeem us.
Don"t forget that Jesus repeateadly said he was God ,"he who has seen the me has seen the Father", and spoke to us about the Holy Trinity. He never said we were to worship oly the Father.On the contrary, he told us to baptize in "the name of the father, the son and the Holy Spirit"
Have look at this:
God Jesus
God never changes.
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Jesus never changes.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

God is the only Saviour.
"I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." Isaiah 43:11

To the only wise God our Saviour... Jude 1:12

God our Saviour. Titus 2:10

...we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour. I Timothy 4:10

God my Saviour. Luke 1:47
Jesus is the only Saviour.
...the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14

...our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 3:18

...God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 1:1

...the Christ, the Saviour of the world. John 4:42

...the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour. Titus 1:4

a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Luke 2:11

Neither is there salvation in any other (than Jesus): for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
--Acts 4:12

...salvation... is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
--2 Timothy 2:10

...captain of their salvation [Jesus] perfect through sufferings.
-- Heb 2:10

[Jesus]...author of eternal salvation...
-- Heb 5:9

God Jesus
God created the universe and earth by Himself.
I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself. Isaiah 44:24

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1
Jesus Christ created the universe and the earth.
[U]nto the Son he saith...Thou, LORD, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands. Hebrews 1:10

[B]y him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth...all things were created by him, and for him. Colossians 1:16

All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. John 1:3

God Jesus
God is the Word.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God John 1:1
Jesus is the Word.
...the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...John 1:14

God Jesus
God is the first and the last.

I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he. Isaiah 41:4
Jesus is the first and the last.

Jesus said, "Fear not; I am the first and the last:" Revelation 1:17



God Jesus
God forgives sins.
[T]he Lord..forgiveth all thine iniquities... Psalm 103:2-3

"[W]ho can forgive sins but God only?" Mark 2:7
Jesus forgives sins.
Jesus...said..."Son, thy sins be forgiven thee." Mark 2:5

God Jesus
God is our redeemer.
[T]hou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer.. Isaiah 63:16
Jesus redeemed us.
[T]the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ...gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity.. Titus 2:13-14

God Jesus
God is one.

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD. Deuteronomy 6:4
Jesus and God are one.

I and my Father are one. John 10:30

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God...All things were made by him...He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not...And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us John 1:1, 3, 10, 14

Jesus saith...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:9

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7

God has a Son.

[T]he LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Psalms 2:7
Jesus is God's Son.

... [Jesus] said also that God was his Father... John 5:18



God Jesus
God is the Holy One
Psalms 71:22 I will also praise thee with the psaltery, even thy truth,O my God: unto thee will I sing with the harp, O thou Holy One of Israel.

Psalms 78:41 Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.

Psalms 89:18 For the LORD is our defence; and the Holy One of Israel is our king.

Isaiah 10:20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.

Psalms 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. (Messianic Psalm)
Jesus is the Holy One.
Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

3:13-14 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

13:34-35 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

God Jesus
Only God is worshipped.
... Then saith Jesus unto him... Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Matthew 4:10
Jesus is worshipped.
While [Jesus] spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him... Matthew 9:18

And again, when [God] bringeth in the firstbegotten [Jesus] into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews 1:6

And Thomas answered and said unto [Jesus], My Lord and my God. John 20:28

God Jesus
God is Messiah.
...unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder...and his name shall be called... The mighty God, The everlasting Father... Isaiah 9:6
Jesus is Messiah.
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. John 4:25-26

God Jesus
God is from everlasting.

The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting. Psalms 93:1-2
Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) is from everlasting.

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah...out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Micah 5:2



God Jesus
Only God is glorified.
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another... Isaiah 42:8
God glorified Jesus.
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:5

[A]ll men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. John 5:23

But unto the Son he [God] saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Hebrews 1:8

God Jesus
God is 'I am'.
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14
Jesus is 'I am'.
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 8:58

God heals all diseases.
Bless the LORD...who healeth all thy diseases. Psalms 103:2
Jesus heals all diseases.
[Jesus] healed all that were sick. Matthew 8:16

God is the Judge of the whole earth.
O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself. Lift up thyself, thou judge of the earth: render a reward to the proud. Psalms 94:1-2

[Abraham to God]...Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? Genesis 18:25
Jesus is the Judge of the whole earth.
[T]he Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: John 5:22

God has life in Himself.
[T]he Father hath life in himself; John 5:26
Jesus has life in Himself.
so hath [God] given to the Son to have life in himself;

In [Jesus] was life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:4

God raises the dead.
[T]he Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; John 5:21
Jesus raises the dead.
[T]he Son quickeneth whom he will. John 5:21





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Conclusion...



Jesus Christ is God



The scriptures bear abundant testimony that Jesus Christ is God. Some liberal preacher will say to me, "You take the Bible literally. It's just myths." I answer, "Yes, I believe the Bible 100%. It is the word of God. If you don't believe it, Jesus is of no effect to you, ye are yet in your sins."




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"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, BELIEVED ON in the world, RECEIVED UP into glory."

--1 Timothy 3:16


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"But unto the SON he saith, 'Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom'...And, 'Thou, LORD, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands.'"

-- Hebrews 1:8, 10


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"I and my Father are ONE."


--Jesus Christ, John 10:30


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"...CHRIST JESUS...being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."


--Philippians 2:5-8


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"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY GHOST: and THESE THREE ARE ONE."


--1 John 5:7


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"... feed the church of GOD, which he hath purchased with his OWN BLOOD."


--Acts 20:28


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"Hereby perceive we the love of GOD, because he LAID DOWN HIS LIFE for us...


--1 John 3:16


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"And they stoned Stephen, calling upon GOD, and saying, LORD JESUS, receive my spirit."


--Acts 7:59


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"For unto us A CHILD IS BORN, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace."


--Isaiah 9:6


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"And Thomas answered and said unto him [JESUS], My Lord and MY GOD."


--John 20:28


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"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, AND DWELT AMONG US, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."


--John 1:1-4, 14


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"Philip saith unto him, 'Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.' Jesus saith unto him, 'Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me Philip? HE THAT HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, 'Shew us the Father?''"


-- John 14:8-9


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"...CHRIST, who is the IMAGE OF GOD..."


--II Corinthians 4:4


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"...glory of GOD in the FACE OF JESUS CHRIST."


--II Corinthians 4:6


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"GOD...hath in these last days spoken unto us by his SON...who being the brightness of his glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON..."


--Hebrews 1:1-3


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Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
1:15 WHO IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD, the firstborn* of every creature:
1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

*firstborn: pre-eminence in rank more than to priority in time. This can be shown in passages where the term 'firstborn' is used of the pre-eminent son who was not the eldest, e.g. Psalm 89:27, where David is called 'firstborn' although he was actually the youngest son.



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"For in [Jesus] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."


-- Colossians 2:9



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"...they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US."


--Matthew 1:23


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"The voice of him [John the Baptist] that crieth in the wilderness, PREPARE ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway FOR OUR GOD."


-- Isaiah 40:3



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THESE PEOPLE DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT JESUS WAS GOD AND THOUGHT HE BLASPHEMED WHEN HE TOLD THE TRUTH.
"The Jews answered [Jesus], saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."


-- John 10:33

Jesus is not a partner of the father , the Trinity is ONE NATURE, AND THREE PERSONS.
We worship the Father, the Son ad the Holy Spirit, ONE God!
Glory be to the Holy Trinity!

Answer 2

Matt.12:32;28:19; Luke12:10; Acts2:33;!st Cor.12:4-6;2ndCor.13:14. The doctrine of the Trinity is held by most Christians, even if the actual word isn't mentioned in Scripture. It's difficult to explain, but basically there are three Divine persons (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) united in the one Supreme Divine Being. The verses I quote at the top support this doctrine.

Answer 3

I am not sure where you get that idea from. No Christian would ever say that Jesus was not God,in the flesh. No way!, that would be the one unpardonable sin. To blaspheme the Holy ghost. Because it is the holy Ghost that reveals who Jesus is,not man. So if you are a Christian then you have the Holy Ghost. So your question is based on what non Christians say, Not what a Christian would say.
It is written in many places,

John 1 (King James Version)
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John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
John.1:
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Good luck!
God Bless!

Answer 4

John 5:23 "that each and each body would HONOR THE SON purely as they HONOR the daddy. Whoever does no longer honor the Son does no longer honor the daddy, who despatched him." effective attempt chum. "went to persecute early Christians" definite, than he switched over. " and then he persuaded Constatine to evolve trinity" i'm very much wondered on the position you studied heritage, Constantine become under no circumstances persuaded through Paul (as Paul lived interior the first century).... The Early Church writing communicate of those products, and search for suggestion from with Jesus AS LORD. So back,you probably did not cajole all of us. So, what precisely are you speaking about? Jesus is God: Luke 6:5, John a million:a million, John a million:3, John 5:21, John 5:23, John 8:fifty 8,Hebrews a million:3, Hebrews a million:8-10, Revelation a million:8, Revelation a million:17, Revelation 19:13, Revelation 19:16, Revelation 21:6-7 Revelation 22:13, and many more suitable. those are those that come to concepts. "The letters of Jesus's brother James were refused to be blanketed interior the bible for 100's" shall we use this common sense, i understand what video you're touching on: they'd those letters, for 1000's of 1000's of years, yet purely now we see them? That makes no experience. we do not actually have a real relationship for it. It become maximum in all probability no longer even round at the same time as Jesus become alive, his Disciples were alive, and at the same time as the Apostles of the Apostles were alive. So, you yet yet again, fail to instruct something.

Answer 5

forgive me for my confusion. some say Jesus is the son of God. Others say that Jesus is God. Since little, i've always wonder how Jesus can be the son of God and the God at the same time. If Jesus is God, then God was baby who was born with blood all over him, need to be feed, and have to learn. And later, the great God was murdered by some weak human? God should be better than that. And now some people say that he have child. So, that baby would be like the grandchild of God and also the child of God? So much confusion. Maybe it is you who've been confused. Who have the final say then? God-father, Jesus-God or baby-Jesus God? lets have some critical thinking about that. i'm going to convert to religion with only one God. life should be simple. simple is good, but not any simpler.what about you?

Answer 6

Yes, there is one God, Jehovah. Jesus is his Son. Jesus plays a vital role in a Christians belief system. Jesus is the head of the Christian congregation. But you are right, even Jesus told us that it is the Father we are to worship and to him alone are we to give sacred service.

The Bible also says that: "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ." (John 17:3)

The Bible teaches that there is one true God, the Father, Jehovah.

Psalms 83:18: "That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth. "

Jesus said: "Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.” (John 4:23 & 24)

The holy spirit is God's active force, not a person to be worshiped, but even the holy spirit does play an active role in our belief system as well, for without it, we could never gain accurate knowledge of the Bible's teachings.

Jesus is not God, the holy spirit is not God. God, Jehovah, is God Almighty, the Supreme Sovereign of the Universe!

Answer 7

Seek knowledge instead of being ignorant.












In God there are three Persons in one Divine Essence, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, really distinct, equal and of one substance. The father is Unbegotten, the Son Begotten of the Father, and the Holy Ghost Proceeds from the Father and the Son (2 Council of Lyons, 1274). All things in God are common to the three Persons, and are one and the same, except

where there is the opposition of relation {Decree of Eugenius IV for the Jacobites). The divine activity is common to the Three Persons, who are the One Principle of all things. As the words one and three refer to two essentially different things, NATURE and PERSON, there can be no question of any contradiction of terms. Three persons who possess human nature are rightly called three men, because the human nature in each is not numerically the same; the Three Persons who have the Divine Nature are not three gods, because the Divine Nature is numerically the same in each one of them.
The dogma of the Trinity was revealed to us by Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who alone could teach us concerning the intimate life of God (Matt. xi. 27). It is taught on every page of the New Testament, and has been handed down, together with the Incarnation, by the Church's divine tradition, as a doctrine which distinguishes Christianity from all other religions. That it was in no way derived either from the Jew or Pagan has been shown in the two volumes of Lebreton's Histoire du Dogma de la Trinite.

The Trinity is clearly mentioned in the account of the Incarnation given by St. Luke (i. 32, 33), in St. Matthew's description of the Baptism of Christ (hi. 16, 17), in our Lord's discourse at the Last Supper (John xiv. 11, 16), and in His divine commission to the Apostles (Matt, xxviii. 19; Cf. C. E., xv., 48). It is set forth explicitly in the baptismal formula, which all critics acknowledge to be primitive, in the doxologies (doxe = glory), or divine praises to the Three Divine Persons which were known as early as the first century, and in all the early Fathers, especially of the third and fourth centuries in both East (St. Athanasius, St. Basil, St. Gregory of Nazianzus and St. Gregory of Nyssa) and West (St. Hilary, St. Augustine), when the doctrine was denied from every possible viewpoint.










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Answer 8

True Christians do not believe in the Trinity. Jesus had a beginning, he was God's first born. God is the alpha and omega, no beginning, no end. Therefore, Jesus is not God. In fact, there are many scriptures where Jesus himself confirms that "the father is greater than I"

Answer 9

""you well aware that Jesus asked you to worship only the God who sent him? why?""

if this is true why does he then tell us in
matthew 28: 18. Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
19. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in ((( the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, )))
20. and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Answer 10

Essential Doctrines of Christianity

The Bible itself reveals those doctrines that are essential to the Christian faith. They are 1) the Deity of Christ, 2) Salvation by Grace, and 3) Resurrection of Christ, and 4) the gospel. These are the doctrines the Bible says are necessary. Though there are many other important doctrines, these four are the only ones that are declared by Scripture to be essential. A non-regenerate person, or a cultist (i.e., Mormon or Jehovah's Witness), will deny one or more of these essential doctrines. Please note that there are other derivative doctrines of scripture that become necessary also, the Trinity being one.

Answer 11

Impossible is either mistaken or lying. All Christians I know believe in the triune being of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.