Who would like to see me leave the forum? here's your chance?

Question

There's many people who claim martial arts isn't fighting art. However in the end all martial arts have some sort of hands to hands combat. If anyone disagree, name ONE martial arts that have absolutely no hands to hands combat of any type and I will leave forever!

However parkour, gymnastic, hollywood fu, stunt man, dance, and yoga doesn't count!

The reason I post this challenge is because I know many people here would like to see me leave.

Since big numbers of people keep try to deny all martial arts are basically a fighting system, I thought I would post this question. Since many people would like to see me leave, I thought that by post this question, it'll drives all those people to try their hardest to answer this question.

Personally I'm pretty SURE that there's not any martial arts that doesn't teach any kind of fighting art. So I feel very secured about my stance on this one.

However I admit I was pretty careless about how I describe martial arts since I forgot about the weapons. However I think everyone here got the idea what I mean.

Tae bo scared me big time but I realized no one else here consider it martial arts or claim their style are Tae bo. However I'm still trying to decide if this answer basically prove me wrong.

I know I'm not the nicest people on this forum, but that doesn't mean I won't keep my word.

On other hand, thanks everyone for all your support. So far I'm pretty sure I'll be staying here, but someone else may manage to find a answer that prove me wrong.

Also I'm still doing research to determine if tae bo could be consider as a martial arts or not. I've ponder about posting "is Tae bo a martial art?" on here but I decide to wait.

Answer 1

Martial arts- the practice or perfecting of the war arts, hand to hand combat etc...

I know we may have disagreed on some things, but on this I back you 100% . Martial arts are for fighting first, everything else is secondary . All the enlightenment through physical training is possible but not necessary . Martial arts were created to enable a practitioner a better chance of surviving a fight then someone with no training in the fighting arts. The more one practices , the better one gets.

Don't leave the forum, you always keep things "interesting" .

Answer 2

It is very clear why martial arts were created. However thet fact that some people seem to put so much thought into using there training to fight people or prove there so called toughness is the big question. The samarai didn't go around saying can a samarai who is proficent in JuJutsu win a fight against a Shaolin trained monk who is also well trained in Mantis...
Nor did Jigoro Kano (Judo creator) and Morihei Ueshiba (Aikido) sit around and say tell me about the time you were at a bar and some drunk tried to pick up your girl friend and you kicked his ***.
Yes there was some level of competition between Dojos and styles but it was just that competition. Not who can beat up more drunken idiots at a bar. And I think the vast majority of people who train in martia arts do so for health and wellness not so they can fight. And those people get more out of the art and probably will defend themselfs better in an attack than a guy who is strictly in it for the fighting as he is probably over confident and in some ways looking for a fight.
So as much as I would have liked to find an art to prove you wrong. I think by posting this comment/question you have once again re inforced why you have chosen to learn a martial art and why many hold negative views of the way MArtial artists think and act.

Answer 3

Gun Kata

Cripple-fu

Kenjutsu or any sword style, typically european masters did incorporate hand to hand and grappling techniques into thier systems for dealing with plate armor however.

Kendo,

Epee or foil fencing

Nuke Fu

Terrorist Fu (unless you want to argue that suicide bombing infants is somehow a hand to hand technique)

I'm just screwing with you though and being a wise-*** this morning.

I don't want to see you leave, we need more (not less) people here that realize that martial arts isn't about putting on a silly headband and catching flies with chopsticks to find inner peace. That is called LARPing (why don't they just call it SCAing? or Trekking?). Wait, that would be an insult to SCA and Trekkies as at least most of them at least know, realize and will admit that what they are doing is playing pretend.

EDIT: Roy B, tai chi was meant for fighting, it is publicity and the elderly demand for it that has made it into the crap that you find 999/1000 times (and that is bieng generious to real tai chi). Commercial promotion of tai chi as a beneficial health activity has turned it from a martial art into a choreographed mish mash of crap in most cases. However, this has obvious financial incentives as it has attracted a large spectrum of people to the art who would not have otherwise engaged in it if it were taught as a fighting activity (I don't agree with it, but I can see why).

I have a video of which the first 5 min shows tai chi techniques, then followed by use of the actual technique in competition against a fully resisting opponent (it is competition), It is 30 min long so youtube won't take it and I don't know where the hell I originally got it from. I might be able to email it to you or if you can suggest a webite besides youtube that I can upload it onto I would be glad to show you.

Regardless of how effective people think tai chi might or might not be, it IS meant to be practiced as a martial art, not as some geezer day care activity.

Answer 4

I was so going the sword route until I saw it played out before me...
Alright, I know what you meant... I sometimes agree with you and like the points you make regardless... hang out.
As far was why people study a martial ART? I sometimes have an issue with the word Martial Art... art is the issue. If we would have called it science or Martial Combat or Open hand combat you could eliminate those who study just for the sake of learning or health benefits... I think I'm rambling.
I'm going to stop
Peace.

Answer 5

Althought i hate to admit it, I agree with you for a change. Martial arts are develope for fighting (mostly self defense and war), but just like we have laws there has always being a code of conduct attached to all martial arts. I think about it this way, any person that can fight (skilled or not) could be a fighter a warrior has the set of values and the code of conduct to make him/her a warrior, a true martial artist. Knowing how to hurt somebody does not give you any right to do so. That is why we have laws and that is why we have a code of conduct in the martial arts. Greater knowledege, greater responsibility.

Answer 6

I understand what you are saying, and yes, marital arts are all based on some element of fighting. The closest thing i can think of to a martial art that is not a fighting art would be certain styles of tai chi. Tai chi in total can be considered with many practical fighting techniques and be used effectively, but it is not meant for that in the least. Tai chi uses the benefits of the althetic fighting motions to better your health, along with meditation and inner reflection you get stronger both mentally and physically (spiritually too i guess if you are into that stuff.)
I do think that you got confused when reading my question though, i was more getting at why people think martial arts is only for fighting. So few people understand the athletic and self control benefits of martial arts, i was asking why other people thought this was.

Answer 7

yeah man...stick around.

i think the most important aspect of martial arts is thier ability to change the life of the practicioner, but wont ever front on martial arts not being about fighting.

dunno who got into you to the point you would post this, but brush that ish off and keep posting.

Answer 8

pardon but i am new,but i read answers and there is no martial artist that has answered you question they untruths all martial arts can be used to do the fighting but not all can do the self defence.

Answer 9

Tae bo

Answer 10

I like having you on this forum. You're one of the only people I know of on here outside of myself that tries to answer questions with intelligence and fact, instead of heresay and theory.

Plus, you're a ballbuster....I respect that.