All their "secret handshakes" are taken from freemasonry. and, the aprons the mormons wear are made of fig leaves, the priests aprons have the all seeing eye, compass and square, they commune with the dead, when they "initiate" you into mormonism, you must look up your geneology from their geneology centers, and convert all your dead ancesters to mormons. Also, the guys who started mormonism(Joseph Smith) were high level practicing 33rd degree freemasons. So if mormonism was created by the illuminati, and mormons consort with the dead and have occult practices exactly the same as freemasons, and their initiation is exactly the same: (swearing an oath with a knife to your throat, swearing to obey and never leave or have your throat slit, bowels removed, or some other ritual killing) This does not sound like a religion that even comes close to a christian religion or followers of Jesus Christ.
Does this sound like a cult or religion?
2007-01-22
18:57:03
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Also, mormons strive to attain Godhood, to become Gods themselves.
2007-01-22
18:59:05 ·
update #1
for the illumintai connection:
www.whatismormonism.com
2007-01-22
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Sorry, It is a fact the LDS church in UTAH, does do these rituals.
2007-01-22
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Yes I have, and everything you say here is true. They are a cult, based on Free Masonry and some ancient Scottish Rites, Oh and with Joseph Smith's special perverted twist. They would still practice polygamy (some still do) and Blood Atonement if the Feds hadn't put a stop to it. For those who don't know what Blood Atonement is: If I am a Mormon and you are not and I kill you it's OK I would be elevating my soul and yours at the same time. They have only recently taken to calling themselves Christians, they have a different Jesus, a different God etc. I believe they are Satanic. And the rituals they do in their temples,OMG. See the movie Temple of the God Makers.
2007-01-22 19:10:01
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answered by Angelz 5
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Wow, a few HOURS? I don't know that there are very many places in the US....well, unless you live in the Australian outback or something, I suppose. A chapel is a plain building. The worship area (chapel) is rather plain. Three columns of pews, a lectern, probably seats up front for the choir, and local leaders, a piano and probably an organ, that's about it. We keep our worship area clear so there are no distractions from the speakers. There are usually pictures on the walls of the halls and some rooms like the Relief Society room, the Primary, and the Young Women have pianos. Otherwise, there are chairs, a table, and chalkboards and that's about it. Restrooms, a baptismal font, the usual. Now, if you are talking about the temple, you can see it if you want, there are sites that show the rooms in the temple. Or books you can get at some temple visitor's centers.
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answered by Anonymous
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All you just said it is true.
They have a church where everybody are welcome, in that place they act like Christians, but they have another temple were not everybody can get in(just mormons with at least 1 year of been active members of their church, in that secret place is where they do many weird things. Plus their Jesus it is not the same Jesus of the Bible, they really believe that God the Father is only God of this planet and every mormon gonna be a new god when they died and they will create their own planet, new human beens,plus their wife/wives gonna be their goddess.
The mormon religion it's a "cult"
GOD BLESS YOU!
2007-01-22 19:59:59
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I have seen the inside of the Mormon tabernacle where the choir sings. It's a beautiful place with perfect acoustics. They drop a pin at the podium and you can hear it at the back of the tabernacle, all without the use of electricity.
The temple is a different story. Non-Mormons not allowed in.
Like most large religions, it's both religion and cult.
2007-01-22 19:10:30
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You're getting your information from anti-mormon sources. I am a Mormon and have gone through the temple and have been inside the churches multiple times. I've gone and done baptisms for the dead. Not once did anyone initiate me into anything at knife-point. That is a despicable lie! If you don't know something firsthand, don't pass on the information. It is false. And false information spreads like a wildfire at the mouth of fools.
2007-01-22 19:01:39
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answered by Arthur 1
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You seem to be describing a Mormon temple.
Since I am not a Mormon, no.
I have attended Mormon services with my Mormon girl friend for three years. Where Mormonism is described.
Lastly, it is a religion. It has been a religion even before Joseph Smith was killed.
2007-01-22 19:07:53
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ok im sorry but im very offended by this. we dont swear an oath with a knife to our throat, we're baptized by immursion. and we have bishops not priests, and they wear suits. we have no secret handshakes and we're not a cult. we dont remove someones bowels if they leave the church i dont know where you got this from but it is all UNTRUE
2007-01-22 19:01:49
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They dont do those things in public anymore. Ba reputation.
2007-01-22 19:05:15
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answered by Tribble Macher 6
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I've been in one, they sacrifice kittens in there. I question anyone that wants more than one wife.
2007-01-22 19:06:57
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Yes, I have seen the inside of many LDS Churches. This is not hard to do, they are open to the public, as is their Sunday services, as well as any other events. And no, I am not an LDS Church Member.
I think you are confusing the local LDS ward buidling, with LDS Temples. Yes I have been in LDS Temples, in particular the historic one in Nauvoo IL (Open House) and the orginal in Kirtland OH. Mormanism (belief in the Book of Morman) DID NOT orginate from any secret socity. The referral to the handshakes, embordered aprons (they are not made of fig leaves), is related to a Temple ritual called the Endowment. You do have to have a Bishop's Recommend (a permission card) to participate. To get one requires the holder to meet high standards of charity, chastity, and service to others, and be a responsible adult. Not every LDS member can get one. This ritual orginated in the 1840s, a long time AFTER the Church was being formed in the 1820s. It does have the appearence of some parts of the traditional Blue Lodge Masonic Ritual but is for different purposes.
A history lesson is in order, the orginal Morman Church had been forced out of Independence under threat of Genocide, and later Far West MO, the Gov. of Missouri actually issued a public order making it legally "open season" on Mormon. This remainded in legal force until the late 1970s. The survivors then gathered to what was then know as Commerce IL. Within a short time it became the largest city in IL. To curry favor with the Springfield Political scene, the Church leadership built a Masonic facility, and for a short time associated in it under the authority of the state Great Grand Master. Soon however, there was a division between Springfield and Nauvoo over an election that the LDS vote had been decisive in. The Nauvoo Masonic Lodge was immedately terminated. Joseph Smith was NEVER a scotish or york rite mason as you clam. The records of the IL Grand Temple are proof. The Masonic facility was then converted into a community theatre, it still exists and is open to the public.
The Leadership of the LDS Church did borrow bits and pieces of Blue Lodge and incorporated them into preexisting ritual that came from the Kirtland Temple called "The Endowment". The purpose of it was (and still its) to prepare the Elders of the Church to recieve a quantum jump in the power and gifts of the Holy Spirit to prepare them for missionary work, kind of a 2nd Baptism of Fire. Regardless of one's opinion on the subject, it cannot be denied that it was (and still is) effective, the success of the LDS missionary programs made the LDS church the fastest growing Christian denomination in North America, decade after decade, even to our modern times. Over time virtually all of the 1840s masonic ritual borrowings have been phased out including the penality signs and oaths you refer to. Why? Because the LDS Temple participants themselves objected.
You refer also to Baptism of the Dead. Again this was not a part of the church when it came together in the 1820s. It was an innovation added later in the 1840s by the LDS Church Leadership. It has nothing to do with Spiritualism as we know it today as you implied. Again, a history lesson is in order. Joseph Smith Jr. had an older brother Alvin who did not live to survive into adulthood, and died before the LDS Church was founded. Because Alvin had not been baptised into any Church, the Baptist Minister at Alvin's funeral declared that Alvin went straight to Hell, and spent the rest of the service describing in graphic and gory detail Alvin's assumed eternal torment. Needless to say, this really upset the family, in particular Alvin's (and Joseph's) father Joseph Smith Sr. Many years later when JS,Sr moved to Nauvoo to be with the rest of his family he found his health failling. As he lay there, he shared with Joseph Jr. in a dramatic and moving way his concern for the welfare of Alvin's soul. In response, JS,Jr had the ritual of Baptism of the Dead initiated immediately. Joseph Smith Sr. then died peacefully in the belief that Alvin's soul had been liberated from the Lake of Fire and Brimstone. It is true that LDS around the world look up geniologys and by proxy are baptised for them. However, it has never been manditory for acceptance for membership. Even if you were dead and Baptism by proxy was done for you, LDS theology clearly indicates that the individual is free to chose to accept or decline it. LDS members motivation really is to do has more to do with Geneology because it is so addicitive. Baptism of the Dead is in effect Icing on the cake. Not unlike sex in marrage.
The Mormon movement, like all restoration Churches, is Christ Centered, and that Salvation comes only through the Atonement of Christ. Like Methodists, they believe in both works and grace. Like Baptists they believe in a believer's Baptism by immersion. Like most penticostals they believe that this is the End Times spoken of in the BIble, and like Evangelicals the believe in the exsistance of the Gifts of the Spirit but not the gloseria. Like the Cathlics they believe that the carry with them the Apostalic authority (by way of its restoration by Angels). Also like the RCC it has cannon that is not encluded in in the Protestant Bible. To say that the LDS Church is not a religion, you would have to say that none of the Christian denominations were either.
I have been in a Christan cult, I know them well, I still carry their scars on my soul. The LDS Church as a whole is a long ways off from that. I will say that ANY local religous group or congregation can become a cult because it is not its theology that makes it a cult, it's the dominate personality in it that does. I will declare this standard: No Church is sicker than its secrets, and the sickest of all is them that keep them. I have been in public ministry for now for over three decades...it is my time tested observation that each and every congragation has its secrets. Also, that eventually the truth gets out, regardless.
2007-01-22 21:22:46
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