how can i get out if the army national guard w/o going to jail when i haven't even started basic training yet?

Question

i'm in a.n.g. and i want out w/o going to jail... i havent been to basic yet.. so i dont understand why i cant just quit... its not for me and i dont want to go to jail because i changed my mind (isn't aganist the law to make a person go when they have a chang of heart) please help anyone!!!!

Answer 1

You aren't in until you go to basic training. You still have more paperwork to do and you have to swear in again. Just tell them you aren't going. They can't do anything.

Answer 2

Check with a lawyer, but when I was in basic we were told that if you never even showed up you get an entry level separation which counts as if you were never there. You can also fail a piss test or just tell them that you refuse to follow orders. They can NOT hit you any more so you are safe. Within the first six months almost any separation is the magical Entry Level Separation.
Check the sites listed and see what you find. The recruiter will try and get you to stay, its their job. But nobody will come looking for you because they have enough other people showing up. You are NOT breaking any law. You are NOT in the military YET. In short, THEY DON"T CARE. They will just have someone else fill your billet.
Everyone that has said they were IN the military has told you the same thing. Anyone telling you its too late has NO experience listed, its just their opinion of something they have no experience with. The Navy JAG has the UCMJ as a PDF below. READ IT. When you understand it it can become VERY scary. One article says that, if you are not guilty of anything else than you are guilty of violating this article. That is, you are screwed, when we want you screwed. You are NOT under the UCMJ just yet. Read it carefully, a male and a female having oral sex are both guilty of homosexuality, if they are both in the military, even if they are married to each other. Its in there. Learn the UCMJ.

Answer 3

I'm with monreda: It's too late, esp. if you've taken the oath already. Up until you actually take it, you can change your mind.

Sorry, no way out of it, unless you have some kind of debilitating illness, like MS or epilepsy or something. I knew a guy that had epilepsy, and tried to hide it...everything was cool until he had a seizure 5 min. before the oath. They told him he couldn't join, and he was gonna join the Army of all branches!

Personally, I wouldn't recommend any branch right now. The Navy and Air Force were the safe bets, but now thanks to our 'boss', it's not so great anymore. I mean, com'on, they're sending the NAVY to the damn sandbox! Hell, not even the Guard is a safe bet anymore, and they normally did things for the state.

Answer 4

You should be all set to get out. You would be doing the Army a favor in there eyes by getting out early rather than going to basic, getting an entry level seperation and wasting the Armys money. Also to the moron who said that Drill Sergeants cant hit you, you are out of your mind! Try going to Ft. Benning Georgia (home of the infantry). Many Drill Sergeants there don't give a damn what a piece of paper states. I witnessed many many fellow privates get assaulted. I'll give you a few instances-- 1. A DS asked a PV if he was badmouthing him and after about 10 seconds of stuttering the PV answered yes, then the DS grabbed his testicles and squeezed hard. FYI defending yourself in this situation is a double edged sword. If you defend yourself about 8 drill sergeants will jump you and beat the crap out of you, not to mention the legal trouble you will astain (being thrown in military jail for assault 30 days). If you don't defend yourself your being humiliated. 2. A DS made a PV do the low crawl on pavement, no big deal right? Well when a DS has his foot on your head it doesn't feel to well your skull scraping on the tar and all. 3. A DS threw a pv into the wall kicked the PV's foot and broke it because he was having a bad day. 4. A DS threw a full MRE box at a PV causing a stress fracture in his leg. 5. Many instances of drill sergeants thrashing around PV's. 6. I have many more stories by the way. Also I can't even imagine the thousands of stories that I don't know about as this abuse happens on a day to day basis. Also I fought my way way out of the army after 3 months at ft. benning, It was no easy task, I had to fight for what seemed like my life to get out. My advice, stay the hell away from Ft. Benning, you are treated worse than terrorist scum. DS's constantly threaten you because of the power they think they hold over you yet on the street they wouldn't dare talk sh*t. Seriously. Also I felt like Jack Nicholson in one flew over the cukoo's nest as 90% of trainee privates there are complete mental retards/criminals/a**holes/troublemakers. There are very few normal people there. If you think i'm full of sh*t than you go train there and try to tell me i'm wrong. Not gonna happen.

Answer 5

I'll be honest with you, "I DID THE SAME THING!" I was actually signed up with the Navy though. Literaly 4 day before I was suppose to ship I had a change of heart. I was wondering how I was going to quit, or even if I could quit. I did some research on the internet and found out that no matter when you decide to quit, as long as it's before you sign that contract and before you swear in (the second time you swear-in which is on your ship date not the first time when you tell them what job you want.) then you can leave. And not only can they not tell you things like you'll be fined or you'll go to jail but it's AGAINST THE LAW for any recuiter or military personel to tell you that you could go to jail.

Basically it will go like this...

You walk into the recruiting station and of course everybody says "Hey", "Hello" and even the recruiters that you don't even know will ask you how you're doing and what you've been up to. (They want to make you feel as if you're with friends, not car salesmen.) Then you just tell your recruiter you don't want to go. Of course he'll ask you why, and after every excuse you give him/her they will give a counter answer. (This gives you the feeling that the branch you're joining has a solution to everything.) Or maybe they'll go with the "Think about the education and experience you'll get" excuse. Or how about the "Think about how proud your family will be."

Honestly, that crap doesn't matter. That's at least 4 years of YOUR LIFE that you'll be spending in ACTIVE DUTY (then 4 reserves). Everyone in the military has a total of 4 years no matter what you'll do however many years it required for active, then the rest reserve till you total 8.

This is going to be hard. It's like walking out of a store and dropping all the change left over from your purchase and you make eye contact as you're picking it all up. Then once you're finished he asks, "Spare some change, Sir?" and you look him dead in the eye and say, "No." You laugh now but watch when you go up there.

Of course if you are easily intimidated and don't want to tell you're recruiter no in his/her face...because he/she is so nice do it over the phone. Just call them up, say you've had a change of heart and don't want to go anymore. Give them an excuse..."I've decided to go to college. My [put family member's relation here] had a heart attack/died." It doesn't matter. But they need something to put on your discharge paper which just says you were in and now you're not. If you want to join at a later time you can. I did it too. I was suppose to leave last September for the Navy and I quit that, sat on my *** for a few months, and now I'm leaving for BCT on the 24th of Jan in the Army.

P.S. There's nothing to be ashamed about. The recruiter may say that you're missing out on a valuable opportunity but they're just pissed cause they lost a recruit. Almost 100 people a week do this across the country.

OK one more thing, seriously this is the last one. If you want to make things simple (and have the recruiter think you're an asshole in the process) just call them up, say you don't want to go, and be serious with it, then just don't show up to MEPS to ship out. The military CAN take you to court for doing this, but haven't for over 30 years. Because like I said, people are doing this EVERYDAY.

Answer 6

The Delayed Enlistment Program (DEP)

IF YOU SIGN UP & CHANGE YOUR MIND…

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GO!!! The recruiter will tell you the exact opposite.

The DEP is Inactive Reserve Status: there is NO OBLIGATION to go, even though you’ve signed up.

The enlistment agreement expires 1 year after you sign it.

Until you show up at Basic Training, you have no commitment to the military

A search on counter recruitment will give you all the resources you need.

Answer 7

I believe you. When I enlisted the Marines (which I'm sure are stricter than the Nat guard) I could get out of it ANY time before boot camp. I didn't want to though. If your recruiters are telling you that you can't tell them it's BS and that you know (bluff your way through it) that you can walk out with no strings. I'm sorry that you changed your mind, my BFF and neighbor just graduated and is at AIT, she likes it, she only gets bored and hates the whores, but oh well.

Answer 8

I see others mentioning the DEP program, but this is just from what I've heard, the ANG doesn't do that program so what I recommend you do is go to military.com and in the recruiting section post this question and most of the responses come from people who definitely know what they're talking about.

Answer 9

are you in the DEP cause if i'm not mistaken you can still get out I THINK cause you havent sworn in yet but i heard that if you write a letter to the MEPS commander and your in the DEP and you give reasons why you dont want to go then there isnt much they can do so call or write a letter to the MEPS commander and see whats up

Answer 10

Tell your superiors that you refuse to deploy to Iraq because of your belief that the war is unjust, illegal and you don't believe in the cause of this war. Many soldiers have already done this and they have not been jailed yet, they are using their religious beliefs as a way to get out of the war that shouldn't have been.