All aetheists, hear hear!!!?

Question

What do you have so far that proves the illegitimacy of god? So far I have:

-To experience anything you need a physical brain, so that disproves afterlife.

-No one has proof of god anyways, so how can we even start disproving it?

-Aetheists are the people with faster evolving brains, and we therefore are smart enough to see past the fairytale of religion.

-The christians who say we're just insecure about ourselves: of course we're insecure! the christians have a reign of terror and ridiculousness going on.

-All religions brainwash others, aetheism doesn't do any sort of advertisement like that except to solve issues like stem cell research.

So, do we agree? And please post any other disproving comments.

Those of you who commented on my spelling, I was simply making typos because I was rushing (and atheist can be spelled like I spell it) By the way, I have never gotten a lower score than A on my spelling tests while in school. So, take that!

The third disproving quote was only a "figure of speech to insult the religious"

Answer 1

People who do not believe in Bigfoot do not work very hard at proving it does or does not exist. People who do not believe in goblins do not work very hard at proving they do or do not exist. Same with aliens, vampires and the Easter Bunny. As much as I try not to confuse Christians with the facts, religiosity is magical-thinking, or, subjective thinking. An example of subjective thinking is the century Christians spent almost burning each other at the stake over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. 10,321! NO! 12,432 and if you disagree with me I'll burn you to death and destroy your village. Objective thinking is merely based upon what we can all see, hear, taste, smell and touch, such as, the sun rises and the sun sets. Another example of objective thinking is, it is unhealthy to pour human excrement into a village water system because, with microscopes, we can see the causative creatures swimming around in the contamination. NO! That is not true, you heathen, says the Christian. ANYONE with GOD in him KNOWS that the Bible says (somewhere among the 22,00 revisions of the Bible, per the Vatican) that people get sick from drinking from the well only on SUNDAYS when you have not turned around three times and clicked your heels.The Earth is the center of the Universe! NO! It IS the Universe, and I shall burn you for your blasphemy! Women do NOT have souls, and if you use a fork or take a bath, you are the DEVIL! Giggle giggle.The problem with subjective thinking is it isn't based on reality, only whatever people make up at the moment. The Christian concept of "God" is pathetically narrow. There are more graceful spiritual concepts of ultimate goodness than WHATEVER subjective/magical thinking can comprehend.

Answer 2

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

There may be a God, but he probably doesn't exist.

Just because something may be or may not be doesn't automatically mean that there is a 50% chance of it being.

That's like saying any woman off the street has a 50% chance of being pregnant. There are other factors to take into consideration:

Is she a virgin? How old is she? Is she currently with someone? Did she use protection? Is she fertile?

If you believe in God, then what created God?

If nothing created God then that means there is NO beginning to time and God has always been. That's a ridiculous statement.

If the big bang created EVERYTHING, what set off the big bang?

And say that atoms have always existed before the big bang without a big bang is also ridiculous.

Which one is more likely, though?

Did God create us using a machine?

No.

It did it using magical powers. We don't call it magic in the sense that a potion was made and words were said to produce the spell, but the bottom line is gods are supernatural.

My theory doesn't require magic. That's why I go with it.
Which one is more likely?

***One more thing to the Christians that posted here: I don't mean to be disrespectful, but most of you are only Christians because you were born Christians. If you were born in India, you would be Hindu.

And you just might be in a different post right now, arguing what proof Christians have that their religion is true.

Answer 3

First of all, it's 'atheists'.

"To experience anything you need a physical brain, so that disproves afterlife."
Complete non-sequitur. Statement preceding comma is true, but second statement does not follow.

"No one has proof of god anyways, so how can we even start disproving it?"
Correct. There is no need to disprove something that isn't proven in the first place.

"Atheists are the people with faster evolving brains, and we therefore are smart enough to see past the fairytale of religion."
False. Atheists aren't "evolved" people (well... given the things I've seen here on Y!A, I'm tempted to retract that...), they're everyday people like believers. We're just a little more critical and rational.

"The christians who say we're just insecure about ourselves: of course we're insecure! the christians have a reign of terror and ridiculousness going on."
Not completely yet. But we're getting there.

Answer 4

These are almost great!

The exception is the one about "Aetheists are the people with faster evolving brain." Individuals do not evolve; species evolve. Individuals may mutate, but the mutation must be reproduced and show evolutionary advantage over several generations in order to indicate an arm of evolution.

Here are a couple of more issues:

To be relevant, God must intervene in natural processes. But this would render all scientific research moot, because each result could be a miracle. But in fact, scientific research is fruitful, and consistently shows greater and greater predictive ability. This indicates that God is not intervening in natural processes.

Additionally, if God is defined as all loving, all powerful, and all knowing, then it is impossible to explain suffering. Either God is not all loving (he acts sadistically), not all powerful (he cannot prevent suffering), or not all knowing (he created suffering by mistake because he didn't know the consequences of his actions).

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Answer 5

Well, just to play Devil's advocate... I don't like dogma no matter where it comes from.

-How do you know you can't experience anything without a brain?
-O.K. fine there's no proof of God.
-Atheists have faster evolving brains? Don't make a mockery of evolution, please. You should know it doesn't work like that. There's a lot more randomness than Darwin believe and b) it doesn't happen at anywhere near the kind of speed you're suggesting.
-Reign of terror and ridiculousness? O.K. maybe the fundies, but calm down.
-What about the advertisement that's being done right here, or all the Youtube videos and what-not?

Answer 6

Funny how atheists use a changing 'theory' as their proof.

Your dog doesn't believe in God, so is he on the same intellect level as an atheist?

The atheist perception of life adds to the great truth that, "the whole world is deceived." Just as the mass of religious confusion is a perfect cover for the devil's control, the atheist thinks he is free thinking and not being manipulated (like a rebellious child who does not want to be told what to do, even if it is good for them). Therefore, the lessons of life have to be learnt he hard way - just look at the state of the world (even the lives of atheists - what's different?)

Answer 7

I have no factual rebuttal for any of this with the possible exception of the faster evolving brain. But this is somewhat beside the point -- none of these things are proofs of anything. It is not possible to prove that god does not exist. It follows from this (provable) that any belief in god is useless: it can have no effect in the real world.

Answer 8

Negative proof is a logical fallacy. The burden of proof is on those claiming that God exists. Atheism is simply the default, a lack of belief in an unproven God (the prefix "a-" meaning "without" and "theism" meaning belief in a god)

Answer 9

You should be aware that even though God hasn't been proven, *nothing* in the world has been proven. Everything we live with each day is theory, plain and simple. God, no God, whatever -- there's no way to figure out what's "right."

I have friends complain to me about "fundies" and how Christianity is ridiculous and offensive. I think fundamental atheism is just as offensive. And the way you're all up on your high horse right now, talking down about being more highly-evolved than a Christian, makes you just as offensive as some fundie Christian spouting off about gay folks going to hell.

You aren't enlightened. And someday you're going to realize how empty your arguments are and it's going to make you really, really sad.

Answer 10

In order:

You can't prove you need an intact brain to experience anything and that your consciousness cannot be somehow copied or transfered.

There are better ways of putting this. "You can't prove a negative." Good examples are: prove Santa Claus doesn't exist. Make some baseless accusation against them that they can't disprove. That sort of thing.

That's just stupid.

Get over yourself.

This doesn't prove anything, and stem cell research has nothing to do with atheism.

We do not agree.