The Three Wisemen Witches?

Question

Astrologers from the East? Three of them? Called Wisemen? Not wise men, but Wisemen? Bringing herbal balms, incense and precious stones? Tracking an omen star over great distances? And what's this I hear about gifts from the Magi?

Please, I don't mean to offend, but the literature around them that I can find varies from opinion to opinion. No one seems to know for sure exactly who they were, but the prevailing belief seems to be that they were Zoroastrian. Nevertheless, the similarities are downright staggering.

Hey didn't they bend knee to Jesus?

*ponders*

Answer 1

First off; YES, they were 'Persian Magi' and Zoroastrian. A belief that ALSO had a monotheistic belief. Mithras being the "Son of light" (sort of an equivalent to Jesus)

Secondly; only three gifts were given, the number of Magi are never counted or stipulated. The Magi were required if this birth was to be of the Messiah..... the earlier stories in the Old Testament required "Foreign Dignitaries to bow at the birth of the new Messiah" So, no MAGI..... no MESSIAH..... tough one to do if he is being born in a manger while mommy and daddy are on their way to go to a Roman Census......

Thirdly; there are several ecumenical theories surrounding these three guys, among them the chance that they were merely included as a literary "add-on" to give the stories more "punch & pizazz". It seems that in thisd particualr time frame it was considered a normal practice to include "Editorials" and "Great Feats" into stories so people would pay attention to the underlying story you were trying to get out to them.

Answer 2

A few years ago Discovery or TLC or The History Channel did a show on the facts behind the wise men. I have been looking for a copy. But I can't find it...

They were supposed astrologers, from Persia. They did follow a star, actually a planet ( which ever one represents a king) and it rose in the constellation, also a zodiac sign for king or power. Scientist were able to track that planet to the last time that star/planet rose in that constellation, about 2000 years ago. And know what day of what month it was there... I think it was march or April... Because the Bible says that the Sheppard's were tending their flocks by night. (In December it is too cold to keep the flocks out at night.) So they are fairly sure April or march was a more accurate time for His birth. I am a Christian and totally okay that these astrologers from another place were partaking in His birth... Many other faiths & religions do not deny the fact that there was a Christ Jesus! They did worship Him because they knew who He was, & that He fullfilled ALL 600-something Old Testament Prophecies. It was a fantastic show, I wish I could remember the title or even which cannel it was on. Oh well...Good luck on your quest for knowledge, may God bless you!



shannara:

Proverbs 1:22
Listen to this passage
22 "How long will you simple ones [a] love your simple ways?
How long will mockers delight in mockery
and fools hate knowledge?

Footnotes:
Proverbs 1:22 The Hebrew word rendered simple in Proverbs generally denotes one without moral direction and inclined to evil.

Answer 3

They were Zoroastrian Magi.

At the time, and in the kingdom, The Magi were wise men who studied the mystic sciences, and such [Think like a court magicians]. The prevailing faith that was into that was Zoroastrian.

They noted the Star of Bethlhem [which, astrologically speaking was all about being a ruler. It was an influence of Jupiter, Saturn, and Venus by the Moon, in the sign of Aries, which represents the kingdom of Judea]. and were supposed to help Harrod kill Jesus, but didn't.

And Witch is a very broad term, dude. You might consider a Magus or Shaman to be a witch, but I sure wouldn't.

EDIT: Read The Myth of Horus as savior. They were there too.

Answer 4

they were zoroastrian priests.

"In Christian tradition the Magi, also known as the Three Wise Men, The Three Kings, or Kings from the east, are Zoroastrian priests, who were also proficient in astrology from Ancient Persia. The Gospel of Matthew states that they came "from the east to Jerusalem" to worship the Christ, "born King of the Jews". According to Matthew, they navigated by following a star which came to be known as the Star of Bethlehem. As they approached Jerusalem, Herod tried to trick them into revealing where Jesus was, so that he might be put to death. Upon finding Jesus, the Magi gave him an unspecified number of gifts, amongst which were three highly symbolic ones: gold, frankincense and myrrh. Because these three gifts were recorded, most believe there were three givers; however, the Scripture does not specify how many wise men came from the east."

Answer 5

The story of the wise men is told in Matthew chapter two. It does not tell how many there were. It has been traditionally assumed there were three because of the three gifts, though it could have been only 2 or more than three.

Answer 6

It makes me "wonder". Light {wisdom} from the east? Bringing sacrifices Of earth, water, & air to be put into the fire of truth, that burns away all illusion. " I have not come to bring peace but with a sword". Just a thought. Good question.

Answer 7

And where did the star lead them. To the Christ Child? NO! to Herod who was then alerted to a new Kings birth.. And what happened because of this visit.... Death of the innocent.. Jim

Answer 8

One of them was Armenian (Kasparian) Armenians were the first country to convert to christianity. But at the time Christ was born they were probably not witches but likely pagan of some sort or Jewish.

Answer 9

Yes they were Magi.. or practitioners of magic. Most pagans dont hate Jesus.

Answer 10

I dont hate jesus because i dont believe in him i do hate the extremeist that constantly shove him down my throat and expect me not to vomit profusely

i agree the similarities are staggering