How much longer before the USA is a theocracy?

Question

And is that what Conservative Christians want?

I posted about why legal gay marraige should be illegal according to CC. All they had to back it up was that their religion says it's wrong, and they vote for people with the same religion, etc.

Does this scare any other Americans?

Are they going to close the Buddhist temples next? Take away religious tax breaks to all non-Christian places of worship? Force children to pray to the Christian God before school lunches? When will the pushing of your religion on to your fellow Americans stop?

I am not a communist. I'm a proud Libertarian, and will support Steve Kubby in 2008, as he still believes in the concept of freedom.

Lion of Judah, I have no problem with your protests if they are peaceful. I have no problem with children praying in schools as long as they are not led by a teacher. I'm not trying to force anything on you. You can do whatever you want until you are forcing something on me. You want the ten commandments posted? Fine as long as the 8-fold path is too. I just want equality.

Answer 1

scares the sheet out of me--Lord protect us from your "good" people!

Answer 2

I'm not an American thank God. The USA will be a theocracy in the next 5 years if Hillary Clinton becomes the first woman president of the USA. I imagine that is the Christian's goal is to make everyone a Christian. Yes this is exactly what they want.

Answer 3

Hmmm, may I venture to guess that it already is?

Here, let me illustrate: Brazil, where I"m from, is supposedly a democracy. We have our little charades every two years where we electronically vote people into office, we have a supposedly free press (it isn't, really, kind of like the US's), we've a constitution that grants people equal rights (which are then stripped away when it's time to put theory to practice), etc., etc., etc.

However, unlike our American contemporaries, we don't even have pseudo-debates on anything that conflicts with Catholicism (Americans deal with Protestantism, I suppose). I saw, when living in Boston, some fake national debates on stem-cell research, gay marriage, and abortion, to name a few examples. I say the debates were fake because people learn a vocabulary not of debating but of PRing, which is very different (to give one example, the above issues are ones of "moral values", but worker-organizing and a bigger minimum wage apparently have nothing concerning morality). We Brazilians don't even have that.

All this is to say that the very fact that a marriage between two chicks is a troublesome issue should make it clear that religion has a much stronger hold on Americans' everyday affairs than most would care to admit.

And then, to further the Brazil-US comparison, there are those scary presidential speeches where Bush and Lula blab on and on about God putting them in power and all that nonsense.

To those reading this and that, at this point, are fuming, let me remind you that you needn't live in Iran to live in a theocracy. It's like saying that, as long as your government isn't like that of North Korea, you live in a free country. When DOD folk are ministered at the Pentagon, when you've a president that declares wars to satisfy his Christian hunger for fighting evil, and when you've more than ten states whose citizens, previously unavailable at the 2000 election, show up in droves to vote a ban on gay marriage, you're living in a theocracy.

Answer 4

Sorry, yet I doubt that any of those things you element out are indicative of a substantial flow in the route of a theocracy. i will grant that in a democracy, non secular human beings get to vote - clone of each body else. And if there's a wide element (or majority) of non secular electorate, politicians will do their perfect to pander to them. yet it really is a miles cry from the dawning of theocracy. yet I even ought to invite... what's incorrect with a theocracy? do not get me incorrect, i do not want to stay lower than one, and really neither do you. yet is there something immoral about a theocracy from the vantage element of an atheist? Is there any wide-spread mandatory generic of habit in atheism through which the atheist can condemn such issues?

Answer 5

I do think the most radical of Conservative Christians believe that the US has always been a Christian NAtion, and that they have a duty to restore its morality, political motivations, and policy decisions to wht they imagine to be the Conservative Christian mores of the founders.

Of course, folks like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas JEffersons were deists, not evangelicals.

As a liberal Christian clergyperson, it terrifies me. There's some great stuff being written about the rise of the religious right, including Chris Hedges, a former NY Times writer who has a Theological education, in which he compares Conservative Christians to Fascist Movements.

http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2007/01/08/fascism/index_np.html

Answer 6

It does scare me, especially when religious people are "outraged" that the new Speaker of the House is pushing for legislation that will label large church organizations as lobbyists if they give funding to political candidates, even though that's the definition of a lobbyist. I think Pelosi is right on with that proposed legislation and hope it passes soon.

I think we'll end up in a Civil War long before this country becomes a theocracy. As non-violent as those of us who don't follow Christianity tend to be, you can only push us so far, and I'm sure there are many out there who will physically fight for our constitutional freedoms if need be.

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Answer 7

USA is about freedoms of religion. However in this country most people accept God. And I go to a Catholic High School we have to pray in mornings only. A hail Mary. In public schools they don't want children praying. In catholic schools you have to. So what I say is this. In puiblic schools you should be allowed to pray whatever way you want. Its forced in Catholic Schools because Hello need I say more? that's what school it is.

Answer 8

What is wrong with any one backing what they state here on any religion. Do you think people of a Religion should be band. Would you want that and you can pick the religion you want band.

No one pushes a religion on you just because they use their beliefs in what the say, this is not forcing you to do any thing.

Answer 9

I hope not any time soon. And it would be terrifying. I can just imagine. Have you ever seen V For Vendetta? I can see it getting to that point very quickly.

Answer 10

NEVER, if I have any say in the matter, but yes, the possibility scares the living crap out of me.

Answer 11

Oh My, You seem to have no problem with Christians being arrested on the streets of Philadelphia for praticing thier right of free speech in protesting a gay rights parade,
You dont seem to have a problem with Truiancy laws forcing our children to learn about evo0lution and social tolerance when we cannot afford to home school or private school.
You do not seem to have a problem with denying our children the right to openly pray in public school.
You dont seem to have a problem with wanting to erase all evidence of Christianity from our nation by wanting to remove the Ten Commandments from all public buildings.
You dont seem to have a problem with wanting "under God removed from "The pledge of alligiance"
You don't seem to have a problem with wanting "In God we trust" removed from all currency.
You do not seem to have a problem with classifying the Bible as hate literature as proposed in H.R. 4200 (hate crimes legislation).

Now... I can go on and on..but the point is clear, who is pushing what on whom now?

seems like it's the other way around.