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Isnt saying Jesus being God in flesh, the same thing as saying God became created by the womb of a human woman?

And God cannot be created ladies and gentleman. Or can he?

So when Jesus was saying he was one with the father only figurative speech referring to his being of God but God not of him?

2007-01-22 03:09:26 · 15 answers · asked by Antares 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

No part of God can be created.True False?

2007-01-22 03:17:24 · update #1

15 answers

The answer to your question is "false." In order for God to be visually manifest to human beings, He must create a form in which to reveal Himself. This is because no human being can see God's true form and live (Exodus 33:20). Jews refer to this created form as the "Shekinah Glory." Instances of the Shekinah Glory include the burning bush; the cloud and tower of fire that lead the Jews through the desert for 40 years; and the Angel of the Lord, who appeared to Moses in Exodus Chapter 3. Later, we find out in John Chapt. 8 the "Angel of the Lord" is a pre-incarnate Jesus Christ. On the basis that God routinely creates visible forms in which He manifests Himself, Messianic Jews (these are Jews who believe Jesus is the Messiah) teach that Jesus Christ is God's ultimate Shekinah Glory, or visible presence.

So it is not a contradiction that Jesus' flesh had to be created, since it wasn't God that was being created, only His visible presence.

2007-01-22 03:29:26 · answer #1 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 0 0

Please read John 1 specially verse 1. Before Jesus was born He existed as the Word. The Word became human through a virgin birth named Mary. John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." and verse 14 tells us what happened when the Word became man, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." That should explain that He was with God and was God before he became flesh. He became flesh to give testimony of the Father and to ultimately pay the price for our sins by dyeing on the cross and rising up again on the 3rd day. So that whoever believes in Him would have eternal life.

2007-01-22 11:28:47 · answer #2 · answered by Messenger007 2 · 1 0

No, God created all things. The Bible states that God has no beginning and no end. If you think too hard on these things, you will just drive yourself crazy!

God can make anything possible, and he made it possible for Jesus to be born of woman, after he was already a spirit creature in heaven.

So God cannot (was not) created by the womb of a woman.

2007-01-22 11:15:05 · answer #3 · answered by ♥LadyC♥ 6 · 1 0

Holy Koran stated Jesus is a messenger of God. Same as Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham and others Prophet. Read the Bible and Jesus say that. Maybe because he was born without a father so people misunderstood that. Same for Adam. He don't have father and mother but he is not a God too.

2007-01-22 11:24:40 · answer #4 · answered by hatijaga 1 · 0 1

forgive me for my confusion. some say Jesus is the son of God. Others say that Jesus is God. Since little, i've always wonder how Jesus can be the son of God and the God at the same time. And now some people say that he have child. So, that baby would be like the grandchild of God and also the child of God? So much confusion. Who have the final say then? God-father, Jesus-God or baby-Jesus God? i prefer to stick to one God, whatever you people say.

2007-01-24 10:10:09 · answer #5 · answered by alexis christian 2 · 0 0

no. Yes, what makes you think that God cannot recreate himself and come down to us ? Why else did the veil rip in two, leaving us with a spiritual way to get to God, without going through a blind high priest ? He knew our leaders were failing us, as they are in Mainstream Christianity now.
When a baptist pastor says he is not looking for the antichrist (he has been asked who it is) he is looking for Jesus Christ, he is clearly deceived as to believe Jesus will come before the beast, therefore leading everyone to the beast.
It was not a figure of speech. Read John 1-1-3, 10,14

2007-01-22 11:42:16 · answer #6 · answered by fivefootnuttinhuny 3 · 0 0

# Questions:
1 *Jehovah created Jesus under another name, as his first creation. Then, using God's powers, everything else was created by them. I like to think that they created the body of angels first because man power is needed on any large scale project. And to my thinking, you don't get any bigger than a Universe.

2 *To die for mankind's sins, Jesus could not have been a God. You cannot kill a God.
Jesus was rewarded by Jehovah with eternal life when he died as a man.

3 * When Jesus said he and the father are one, he was describing his thinking, which was in harmony with God's will. He could have said his thoughts were in agreement with his fathers.
Many times Jesus put his conversation on a level of the people he was talking with, for their benefit. (He called it parables)

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2007-01-22 11:27:03 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The mirror reflects the light of the sun, but the sun does not reflect the light of the mirror. Jesus is of God, but God is not of Jesus.

Jesus is not God in the flesh, He is the Manifestation of God, a perfect Mirror of God on earth. In Him we see God, but God made Jesus.

In response to your additional details: True. No part of God can be created, but God doesn't have parts. God is one.

2007-01-22 11:16:46 · answer #8 · answered by darth_maul_8065 5 · 1 1

i will answer this question from the islamic point of view
there is the god and the holy spirit and the jesus
the holy spirit is an angel and the messenger between the god and his prophets
and the jesus is a prophet of god

i think there is a group of christians think the same way
but i dont remeber what was they called ...
the uniterians may be

2007-01-22 11:23:12 · answer #9 · answered by HuMaN being 2 · 2 1

Christ’s divinity is shown over and over again in the New Testament. For example, in John 5:18 we are told that Jesus’ opponents sought to kill him because he "called God his Father, making himself equal with God."

In John 8:58, when quizzed about how he has special knowledge of Abraham, Jesus replies, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am"—invoking and applying to himself the personal name of God—"I Am" (Ex. 3:14). His audience understood exactly what he was claiming about himself. "So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple" (John 8:59).

In John 20:28, Thomas falls at Jesus’ feet, exclaiming, "My Lord and my God!" (Greek: Ho Kurios mou kai ho Theos mou—literally, "The Lord of me and the God of me!")

In Philippians 2:6, Paul tells us that Christ Jesus "[w]ho, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped" (New International Version). So Jesus chose to be born in humble, human form though he could have simply remained in equal glory with the Father for he was "in very nature God."

Also significant are passages that apply the title "the First and the Last" to Jesus. This is one of the Old Testament titles of Yahweh: "Thus says Yahweh, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, Yahweh of armies: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; besides me there is no god’" (Is. 44:6; cf. 41:4, 48:12).

This title is directly applied to Jesus three times in the book of Revelation: "When I saw him [Christ], I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand upon me, saying, ‘Fear not, I am the First and the Last’" (Rev. 1:17). "And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the First and the Last, who died and came to life’" (Rev. 2:8). "Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense, to repay every one for what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the beginning and the end" (Rev. 22:12–13).

This last quote is especially significant since it applies to Jesus the parallel title "the Alpha and the Omega," which Revelation earlier applied to the Lord God: "‘I am the Alpha and the Omega,’ says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty" (Rev. 1:8).

2007-01-22 11:17:04 · answer #10 · answered by Gods child 6 · 0 0

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