mistakes in bible (3)?

Question

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Error #1

Is there any mountaintop on a round earth from which one can see “all the kingdoms of the world” (Matthew 4:8)? (If this is not to be taken literally, why does the devil take Jesus up “an exceeding high mountain” at all?)

Error #2

Is there any kind of life after death, as most Christian denominations teach (backed by numerous texts) or is it true that the dead do not have “any more for ever a portion in any thing that is done under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 9:6)?

Error #3

Is it true that "No man has ever seen God at any time" (John 1:18) or did Isaiah (6:1) and Moses and the elders (Exodus 24:9-12) see God?

Error # 4

Did the plot of the king of Syria with Pekah, the son of Remaliah, against Judah fail (II Kings 16:5) or succeed (II Chronicles 28:5-8)? In light of the passage from Chronicles, what are we to think of the prophecy regarding this plot in Isaiah 7:1-7? See especially verse 7: "Thus saith the Lord God, It shall not stand, neither shall it come to pass." Is the Bible telling us that the plot that God said shall not stand or come to pass did stand and come to pass?

Error # 5

In II Kings 9 and 10, we are told the story of Jehu’s anointing as king and his going into battle at Jezreel against Ahab. He was commanded to do this by God (9:6-10), and later, God announced that Jehu had "done well in executing that which is right in mine eyes, and hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart" (10:30). Why, then, does Hosea, a couple of centuries later, write, "And the Lord said unto him ... I will avenge the blood of Jezreel upon the house of Jehu, and will cause to cease the kingdom of the house of Israel"? The blood of Jezreel was shed at God's command and with his approval, yet he says he’s going to take vengeance for something that never would have happened without his own command. Worse yet, he’s going to take vengeance on "the house of Jehu" – that is, on descendants who had not even been born at the time of the bloodshed of Jezreel.

Answer 1

After Christians finish giving non-answers to those problems (translator errors, typos, it's all metaphor, you took it out of context, you need the Holy Spook to understand it, etc.), they can tackle this one: Go to all four gospels and tell me how many women first appeared at Jesus' tomb, what their names were, and whether they got there before or after the sun arose. Since God inspired all four writers, I am sure these accounts all agree....or do they?

Answer 2

Technically, these should all be separate questions.

1) The Greek word used at Matt. 4:8 is "oros," which is usually translated "mountain," as it was here. However, this word would more accurately be translated "high place." In this context, it's possible Jesus and Satan were high above the clouds, looking down on the earth. Therefore, this is not an error.

2) The Ecc. 9:5 argument is routinely used by cults such as Jehovah's Witnesses to teach an errant theology known as "soul sleep." Numerous sources throughout the Bible tell us humans (both saved and unsaved) are conscious after death. For example, read "The Rich Man and Lazarus" beginning at Luke 16:19; see also Revelation 6:9-11, where the souls of Tribulation martyrs cry out to God). Further, if you read Ecc. 8 in its entirety, you will see that the writer (probably Solomon) specifically states the dead body is dead, but the spirits of the saved live on. This is not an error.

3) They saw what the Bible refer to as "The Angel of God." This is different from seeing God's true personage, which would be too much for an unsaved mortal to bear. See Exodus 3, for example. This is not an error.

4) You need to read the entirety of 2 Kings 16. This is not a contradiction.

5) You left out the remainder of 2 Kings 10:30 -- God's blessing was only good until "the fourth generation." Verse 31 then reads, "But Jehu took no heed to walk in the law of the LORD God of Israel with all his heart; for he did not depart from the sins of Jeroboam, who had made Israel sin." So while Jehu rid Israel of Baalism, he then turned to idol worship, as did his sons. After the forth generation, when Hosea was writing, God avenged this idolatry. "The blood of Jezreel" is a reference to the work that Jehu did against Baalism, that was good at the time he did it, but was temporary. This is not a contradiction.

Answer 3

Ancient Greek is a dead language. Since it hasn't been spoken that way in over 1,500 years no one knows how to read between the lines or "think" in that language.

The disciples were not formally Greek, although they spoke and wrote it. They could have been thinking in Hebrew or some Middle Eastern dialect.

I have a friend who is Lebboneze and on some things he mulls over it by tranlating the English into ARamatic and thinking in Lebboneze. He makes a lot of mistakes in comprehension that way, because he resists thinking in English even though he's speaking to a lot of Americans.

This is where mistakes come from.

A recent Codec gives the number of the beast as 616 not 666. This has casued some confusion.

I'm not sure, but I technically don't think Greeks think in terms of 6 score 60 and 6.

We don't think in score at all, today. Most people have to go to a dictionary to translate Lincolin's 4 score and 7 years ago.

Answer 4

error #1 You have to assume they were in the spiritual form, or else they climbed it. None of us know vision in the spiritual realm
error #2 Is speaking to the dead in christ, not the literal dead
error #3 Saw god, might not mean saw god, but was in his presence, or he was there but they didnt actually see him because of the light of god.
error #4 He is speaking of a plot that was planned, but was not going to happen, I dont even see any form of issue here.
error #5 Jehu did not do as god ordered and took the body to jerusalum to bury. God told him to bury it there, he disobeyed god.

There is no greater punishment than for one that knows the truth and denys the truth. Everyone of your topics are disputed, read up and understand

Answer 5

Error 1:
Check the revised edition where this typo was corrected.

Error 2:
The question the bible attempts to raise is "Is there death during life" This has been widely misinterpeted.

Error 3:
Check Zararche ".1.19378 (subsection 22)
This provides a full list of all men and women throughout history who have seen the lord.

Error 4:
You missunderstand the terms 'plot' and 'stand' - read "War and Peace" and pay attention to the similarities with the text you mention. This will explain everything.

Error 5:
. . . and, looking at the world's history, you really think that this did not come to pass?????

Answer 6

God who is perfect cannot deny His own nature. The words of God however blinding they can be for some has no contradictions. Only the persons reading them have misunderstood or misinterpreted them because they do not read it properly and with the right disposition.

Answer 7

Can't answer your question. But can advise you to fore go theological discussions. You can't win!

Reason(s):

#1 It's based on faith. No amount of "proof" will change a believers mind.

#2 ANY proof you provide, will be simply explained away with some ludicrus attempt of making logic from nothing.

#3 Again.....It's faith based...having nothing to do with reality and the here and now. Under normal circumstances, they would be given lithium to help control these delusions.

Answer 8

what would you like to say to this? what profound discoveries!
you have cracked the code and unearthed a terrible deception!

don't you think all religions is like that.....do you want to take every religion and break it down like that bit by bit just to make you feel better? every single religion is venerable to this kind of dissection.
do you do that to fairy tales you tell your children, that they really are not true and to never dream of believe in anything???
i just think if you want to be critical you should include all religions because they are really all for the same purpose.

Answer 9

First of all, there are lots of translations of the bible.
Many religions interpret for their people what they want the bible to say. For example, the catholic church and the trinity.
Below I have provided a study link. We love to teach and I think you can find someone you will enjoy discussions with if that is your wish.

Answer 10

This isn't even the tip of the iceberg.

However, there are more nuanced, non-literalist approaches to sacred literature that can take away wisdom while leaving the dross.

Your avatar is so distracting.