If it takes millions of years to make coal, what if you find human artifacts in it?

Question

I heard that you can actually make coal today with the right amount of pressure in little time.

Answer 1

That the Earth is not as old or as young as most people believe.

This is what I believe, even if there are no human artifacts in coal.

Answer 2

>> Stone age man had a brain equal and some larger than modern humans, yet they did not record history? The span of recorded history is roughly 5,000 years. Golly gee. Maybe developing a written language from scratch isn't EASY (also, you're off by a few thousand years). >> Stone age man also supposedly only hunted and were scavengers for thousands of years, but were they too stupid to work out that seed produce plants and it would be easier to plant than run down a buck? If the environment is conducive, and you don't have a pressing need to build a large population, the life of a hunter-gatherer is comparatively pleasant in many regards relative to that of a peasant farmer in an early agrarian society. Bear in mind also that H. Sapiens originated in southern Africa, and that agriculture is a tricky practice which not all terrain is suited to. You make it sound so simple, but have you ever actually tried growing your own food? There are cultures today which have limited to no agriculture. A hundred years ago there were many more. Two hundred years ago, vastly more. Bear in mind also that the process of domesticating plants is SLOW. Our modern agricultural plants are a product of millenia of artificial selection. The wild ancestor of broccoli looks like a scraggly little weed, not at all like the modern crop. The difference between early domestic cultivars of wheat and wild wheat is also quite significant. The domestication process would have entailed generations of experimentation. >> Things that have been found in coal deposits that are too advanced for the ancients to have known, that can not be linked to any civilization and of which the coal surrounding it scientifically dated to a few million years. Yes. Coal dust can cement itself to objects and encase them. It will still date the same as the coal bed from which it was drawn from. >> We know so little of our past that it is scary what people would come up with to explain our origin... Indeed it is, particularly to a rationalist. I see a lot of, "I don't know how this happened therefore magic/god/aliens," and the speed at which people leap to conclusions not evident is scary.

Answer 3

Two "If"s and a couple more: "If" the reports are accurate and "If" there is no detectable chance of an peculiar result or fraud, or mistake...
(there is a steam-engine lost in coal measures somewhere in Northern England: it fell through a fissure which opened and closed during subsidence)

...Then human beings were around when the coal measures formed.

But that's a lot of "If"s to firm up before we can conclude anything much.

Answer 4

have Human artifacts been found in coal. not in a coal mine, or around coal, but actually imbedded and encased in coal?

yes we could make coal with enough pressure and time. but we do not have a machine capable of creating that much pressure.

Answer 5

They got put there by someone for a fraudulent purpose. Natural coal cannot contain human artifacts.

Answer 6

There have been a few claims of that. But they never actually found their way into a lab where they could be examined. That is why they are treated with skepticism. Most all that kind of stuff falls apart when it is really examined.

Answer 7

Could be, but one can also find diamonds in coal.

Answer 8

I have a better question. If diamonds come from carbon....then with enough pressure can you crush a person into diamonds? I wonder how much I would be worth? ~150lbs of person?

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Answer 9

My response would be to say "W T F?" and go on my merry way. Why are you asking this?

Answer 10

Yeah, but you don't have the tools or the power to do it.