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Did he die knowing it was just a temporary death, and he would ascend into Heaven and be acclaimed a hero by millions of angels and become a legend on Earth as well?

Or did he not know what was going to happen? Did he think he was really dying? What did Jesus know or not know and when did he know or not know it?

Please answer, cause this question is connected to the question, Just how great a sacrifice was Jesus' death when you come right down to it?

Some people suggest he is God, in which case it would seem he knew everything that was going to happen, would it not?

2007-01-21 10:18:05 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Already I see the answers of people who miss the point of my question. They cannot face the obvious choice: EITHER HE KNEW AND SO IT WAS NO GREAT SACRIFICE; OR HE DIDN'T KNOW, IN WHICH CASE HE WAS NEITHER GOD NOR GOD'S SON.

2007-01-21 10:48:26 · update #1

17 answers

Jesus did not know. Jesus was just a man who got caught up in the Roman government and they were afraid he would cause a revolution. This is one viewpoint.

Then, there is the Islam concept that Jesus did not die (he was not the one of the cross) and he just ascended into heaven till the day of judgment.

Your viewpoint is the Christian viewpoint, and how would anyone know what was going on in his mind?

2007-01-21 10:23:15 · answer #1 · answered by Shossi 6 · 0 1

Of course he knew, he was the Son of God. The question
to ask is how do we know we are going to be resurrected.
Jesus was well in touched with God and the heavens.
He knew what was going to happen. Faith was not an issue since he already knew the Father. It would take a far bigger leap of faith for someone not having these ties
to believe he or she will be resurrected. Eg. If I took a
trip to Egypt and I came back and told you Egypt exist,
I would be able to describe the country, pyramids ,etc.
On the other hand you would have to take my word for
it, unless you made the trip yourself. Now if you told a
friend about Egypt, you would have to use the descriptions that I gave you and so forth and so on.
Therefore the people handed down the story would have
to have a greater belief in the description of Egypt or
the fact that I was even there than I. This is the prece-
dence of all religion. Whether it be Muslim, Buddhist,
Judaism, Christianity or whatever. Of course if enough
people believe that I went to Egypt, you would have a
hard time persuading them of your doubt. You may
even be ostracized depending on my position in your
society. I'm not discounting religion, we all have a right
to believe what we want as long as it doesn't cause harm
to innocent people. I come from a family with various
religious backgrounds and I too am a believer of Christianity but we should all be tolerant of all religious
beliefs including the athiest beliefs. After all it is a belief with
the foundation precedented on a messenger delivering
the message to us. Very good question!!

2007-01-21 10:42:56 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Yes, he was 100% dead when taken from the cross; Yes, Jesus knew he was going to be resurrected, it had been predicted in the prophecies about his crucifixion that he would rise again. For example, if you read the "Suffering Servant" in Isaiah chapters 52 and 53 you will notice two things; firstly, the Servant, whom many believe is a prophetic prediction about Jesus, dies for our sins; but the second thing is he obviously is brought back to life, "... he will again have joy" (verse 11).
Again, as one person above said, he mentioned several times that he would be resurected back to life after 3 days, for example, the incident regarding the destruction and rebuilding of the temple (John 2:13 - 22) and the analogue with Jonah in the Whale, "In the same way that Jonah spent 3 days and 3 nights in the big fish, so will the Son of Man (this is how Jesus refers to himself) spend 3 days and 3 nights in the depths of the earth" (Matthew 12: 38 - 42).
Just a point to note, being "dead" in the Bible isn't "dead to the world" like many modern people think. Luke 16:19 - 31 is quite plain on this, "dead" means your physical body is dead and the spirit (I'm using spirit in the broad sense here) is alive in heaven or hell. God is eternal, and since we are made in his image, then our spirit is also eternal.
It is important to realise this was no easy decision, even though he was obedient to God, he also loved being alive, as is shown by his "take this cup of suffering from me" and he sweated blood (Luke 22:41-44). For example, often you hear of a foreign diplomat who refuses to pay a parking infringement because they have diplomatic immunity. This was not the case with Jesus, he didn't die, then claim diplomatic immunity, and so escaped being dead.
My understanding of hell is that it is devoid of time in the earthly sense, so although Jesus was in there for 3 earth days, it would have seemed like an eternity. Some people say he went only to "Paradise" which was the "good" section in Hell, and certainly there are things like "Today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43) which confirm this, but I don't see how he could have avoided not going into the "bad" section of Hell when he died because he had taken all our sins, and that is where we all deserved to go (refer again to Luke 22: 41-44).
I don't know whether or not he suffered while being brought back to life and given his resurrection body.
Regardless, the suffering Jesus went through was at least equal to what any other person has suffered when they died, and was probably considerably greater.

2007-01-21 11:35:20 · answer #3 · answered by Bad bus driving wolf 6 · 0 0

ok yes, Jesus did know the path that lay ahead of him. He was told by God in the garden, which we call the Agony in the Garden, for that is where Jesus cried tears of blood when God told him what he was to do. Jesus knew he was to be betrayed by Peter, and Judas. He knows everything because he is God. He knew that he was to die on the cross and then be resurrected into Heaven with his Father. He sacrificed his life for us, so that is sort of unbelievable how much he had to go through for us sinners.

2007-01-21 10:28:05 · answer #4 · answered by imacatholic1 3 · 0 1

He didn't just die, He was tempted...as a man, and also in all other ways. Yet DID NOT FAIL OR FALL.

In so doing sealed the fate of anyone who denies Him Lordship over his/her life! This was the Father's doing, Jesus obeyed it, but it was the Father's doing. Got news for you, God is alive. He speaks. He heals. He is alive. Heaven and hell await. If the dead could speak, mankind would go white with fear.

Here is a suggestion for all who read this: while the blood is running warm in your veins, turn to Jesus. People think they are pretty smart and beyond it: but heaven and hell await...regardless of what people think.

2007-01-21 10:26:28 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Presumably he knew everything that was to transpire. So perhpas it wasn't such a great sacrifice after all. Church people believe he knew it was temporary death, so where is the great sacrifice that they all tout so fervently?

I wonder if church people wil stay away from this question, cause it cuts to the heart of many matters deep in Christian mythology; and either way you answer it, not so good.

If he didn't know, then how can you say he's God? If he did know, then where is the great sacrifice?

2007-01-21 10:21:23 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

I can only understand from my own experience. Jesus walked the razors edge. He knew what he & everyone else is. And yet to be in a body. Everyone that has a body will make the sacrifice. It does not matter what they "believe". What matters is what they "know". And just what is the "truth" Christ pointed to. I chose not to be a "victim" & blame someone else for my "sin" & depend on someone else to save me. That really would not be Christ like would it? What is a Christian?

2007-01-21 11:59:01 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Jesus knew that he would rise from the dead. He told his disiples a few times that he would be taken to the teachers of the law, be beaten, crucified, and on the third day rise agian. He said that just as Jonah was in the belly of a fish for 3 days and then was spit onto dry land so would he be in the belly of the earth for 3 days and rise again.
Also he said that if they tore the temple down he would rebuild it in 2 days but he was referring to his body

2007-01-21 10:31:56 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Since He did know He was going to die and be resurrected

that should also show you that He was who He said He was,

the Son of God, the one who spoke to Abraham, the One who was on the throne when Isaiah saw Him, the I AM, the sacrifice for your sins.

2007-01-21 10:38:41 · answer #9 · answered by Sirius 3 · 0 0

Yes, Jesus knew why he was here.

However, I feel you're missing the point. His sacrifice was great, he took all the sins of the world. (past, present, future)

My friend, this is the point of Christianity. You are saved by this Grace of God. You have to do nothing. What religion has that? You have to do nothing!! Faith is all that is required. This gift is for you.

2007-01-21 10:26:56 · answer #10 · answered by ? 4 · 1 1

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