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The bible says to "love one another",
1 John 4: 7,8 says "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God: and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love."

2007-01-21 10:11:36 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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DUDE!!!! WHERE in the Quran does it allow Muslims to kill the infidels???! NOWHERE!!!
Obviously, you're talking abt those verses that anti-Muslims use to claim the Quran teaches evil, no? Well, I hope you'll read what I have to say, friend.
Anti-Islamic people often use the following verses to justify the stereotype that Islam is a religion of violence and intolerance, which was spread by the sword. The explanations here were aided by Abdullah Yusuf Ali's commentary on the Holy Quran.

Sura 8.12 "Remember thy lord has inspired the angels with the message. Give firmness to the believers and instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite them above their necks and smite the fingertips of them."
Sura 9.5 "When the sacred months have passed, kill the idolaters whereever you find them."
Sura 47.4 "When you encounter the unbelievers, Strike off their heads. Untill you have made a wide slaughter among them tie up the remaining captives."
Sura 8 is about a BATTLE - the Battle of Badr - not just some daily affair. A battles take two side to occur. Are you under the impression that while these 'horrid' Muslims were fighting, the enemies were simply standing there like good little peaceful men?
Sura 47 was revealed during the first year of Hijrah when the Muslims were under *threat of extinction* by invasion from Makkah.
Sura 9 is interesting. Non-Muslims almost invariably quote verse 5 but leave out verse 4 and 6. Why? Because verse 4 says, "But the treatires are not dissolved with those Pagans with whom you have entered into alliance and who have you subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided anyone against you. So fulfill your engagements with them to the end of their term: for God Loves the righteous."
And verse 6 says, "If one among the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him so that he may hear the Word of God; and then escort him to where he can be secure."
So basically what has been done above is:
1. The background to each sura was shown. One cannot take a verse revealed for a battle and insist it is if for the daily affairs of Muslims.
2. It was shown how Non-muslims who wish to attack Islam, conveniently leave out verses before and after their quoted verse. Above, I have shown only one of the many examples.

And don't you forget: "Let there be no compulsion in religion; Truth stands out clearly from Error..." (Quran, 2:246).
In the Qur'an, the principle of fighting is purely self-defensive.
"Permission [to fight] is given to those against whom war is being wrongfully waged and, verily, God has indeed the power to succour them; those who have been driven from their homelands against all right for no other reason than their saying, 'Our sustainer is God!'" (22:39-40).
Now, anyone can commit acts of terror and aggression and say, "it's in self-defense." In fact, that is precisely what Al Qaeda is doing: they claim by killing 3,000 people in New York City and Washington, D.C., they are "defending" the Muslim nation against "Zionist and Crusader" aggression against the Muslims. What sheer rubbish! They're NOT following the Quran!!! They're killing others for personal pleasure as have done many, many other religious freaks throughout history.
The Qur'an clearly states, in the remainder of 2:190:
"...but do not commit aggression, for verily, God does not love aggressors."
"Committing aggression" includes killing innocent civilians in Tel Aviv, Beslan, New York, Baghdad, or wherever. Furthermore, when the enemy ceases its hostility, fighting must cease:
"...but if they desist, then all hostility shall cease, save against those who [willfully] do wrong" (2:193).

Another verse repeats this insistence that hostility must cease when the enemy stops its aggression against you:
"But if they [the enemy] incline to peace, incline thou to it as well, and place thy trust in God: verily, He alone is all-hearing, all-knowing! And should they seek but to deceive thee [by their show of peace] - behold, God is enough for thee! He it is who has strengthened thee with His succour, and by giving thee believing followers" (8:61-62).
Thus, even if the enemy is feigning a peaceful posture, the Muslims are still commanded to cease hostility and "place their trust in God."
It is quite clear that fighting is in self-defense, and aggression is not allowed. Now, Muslims have waged wars of aggression in the past, for sure, and they even called them "jihad against the infidels" in order to justify their desire for territorial expansion. In fact, one of the most pertinent examples of this was the Ummayad Dynasty, which enacted a policy of "jihad" as perpetual warfare. But, such a policy is not Islamically correct, and as the collapse of the Ummayad Dynasty showed, not sustainable.
Truly educated Muslims who practice Islam TRUTHFULLY do not kill women, children, civilians, elderly, religious leaders, etc even during wars (only the participant enemies fighting the war can be killed, duh!!!! THIS is the True Islam.

They are NOT doing God's will; (they DON'T get 72 virgins in heaven!!!!! THIS is a dumb LIE!!!!!!! The Quran says ONE man to ONE woman in heaven!!!)
By the way, we Muslims are told that forgiving is the best way!!!
'We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers' (Quran, 5:45). Just for those of you who think Islam is all about the eye-for-an-eye concept! It's NOT!

The BIBLE teaches PEACE and LOVE????!!! DUDE!!! Get your facts straight:

"They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man........Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." (Numbers 31:7,17-18)
Ahhh... to kill every woman who's slept with a man but to save every woman who's never done so... to read this in the BIBLE???!! ... Sounds quite peaceful and loving to ME!!!!! :@:@:@!!!
Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [among them were virgin girls]."
Anyway, peace be upon you all, and stop believing everything you hear/read/see, people; it's NOT wise. And stop judging Islam based on what some ignorant, uneducated Muslims make it seem like! "The loud ones don't represent the norm."

2007-01-21 10:44:09 · answer #1 · answered by ♡♥ sHaNu ♥♡ 4 · 4 1

They all say " convert the heathen unbelievers to save their souls from an eternity of punishment and regret . Those that are not like us and do not believe as we believe are the unwashed and are in need of a cleansing ". Yes, this attitude is not tolerant at all. This attitude rules from on high through some nebulous empirical prerogative that can not be verified as fact beyond doubt. That is why separation of religion and government is indeed necessary. The Quran 008.012 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels: " I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite you above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." The Bible Luke 19:26-28 "He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away. But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them, bring them here and kill them in front of me." After Jesus had said this, he went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem. Religion, no thanks away with them all.

2016-03-29 08:03:21 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

and you belief what the bible says just look there actions speak more the bull Sh#t words in a book god is in side every one that is the Control Centre of the human brain control it and you wil be god... how do i know because i have shook his hand.. and i know how to do it... know you self well be of good dont Belief in a bible that has changed some many times over human history trying to keep up with the times we in now

2007-01-21 10:19:16 · answer #3 · answered by BKSTYLE 1 · 0 0

Self defense.

That allows them to kill everyone else, because we ALL had a hand in things.

Hey, did you know the Maori and Abborigonese of New Zealand and Australia were from Afghanistan and were Muslims.

So, who has a right to New Zealand and Australia now!

Who has a right to France, Denmark, Germany, England.

I'll even BET the American Indians were from some Islamic country.

2007-01-21 10:41:31 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

This is what I call out of context. Quran only allows attacking in self-defense. We are told to live peacefully with others and as Quran states 2:256 "Let there be no compulsion in religion...". Why don't you quote the verse before and after? And by the way there is a lot of violence in the Bible, don't even get me started!

2007-01-21 10:14:28 · answer #5 · answered by A fan 4 · 8 3

* 2.190. Fight against those who fight against you in the way of God, but do not transgress, for God does not love transgressors.
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* 28:55, And when they hear vain talk, they turn away from it and say: "To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we do not seek out the ignorant."

"To us our deeds, and to you yours." Each group, Muslim and non-Muslim, may practice as they please. "Peace be to you," they say.
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* 5:69 says (Arberry): "Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness--their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow."

In other words, the Quran promises Christians and Jews along with Muslims that if they have faith and works, they need have no fear in the afterlife. It is not saying that non-Muslims go to hell-- quite the opposite.
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* 4:94:

. . . Do not say to one who offers you peace, "You are not a believer," seeking the spoils of this life. For God has abundant treasure. You used to be like them, after all, and then God blessed you.

the Quran commands Muslims to live in peace with pagans who do not make war on them and who approach them in peace.

2007-01-21 10:26:26 · answer #6 · answered by sofia 3 · 1 0

not a Muslim, but its common law of humanity to love each other.

there are crude and radical people in ALL RELIGIONS, that get the wrong idea,..THAT KILLING AND PUSHING YOUR TRIP DOWN SOME ONE ELSE'S THROAT IS [SUPPOSEDLY GODLY].

god is on OUR SIDE, like to Germans and the Americans in WWII praying to god to kill the other.....totally stupid.

the goddess [of life]dose not tell us to kill!!.

only our stupid egos tells us to kill.

killing is our trip not gods.

2007-01-21 10:27:29 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You do know that Christianity is historically the most deadly religion ever created right?

There are many quotes in the bible that can be taken to promote violence as well, just as 20-30 people died from people doing.

And yes, you are taking any possible quote out of context. I've studied both the Quran and the Bible.

2007-01-21 10:14:39 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 8 5

Read the whole Qur'an and stop taking things out of context--you will find the answer then.

2007-01-21 10:15:02 · answer #9 · answered by Shossi 6 · 5 1

I said it before and I'll say it again.

Please show proof.

2007-01-21 10:17:57 · answer #10 · answered by DBznut 4 · 4 0

You are taking the quote out of context. Its boring stupid and old. Think of something new why don't you.

2007-01-21 10:14:47 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 6 3

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