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It seems to me that atheism and theism are equally plausible arguments because something can't come from nothing. Who created the big bang? Who created God? It seems to me that it's simply a choice between the two. DON'T GIVE ME BIBLE QUOTES THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!!!!!!!! I'm asking for individual rationality behind your answers.

2007-01-21 09:03:34 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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One cannot explain the existence of god. I have asked that question many times and always get the same retort. Bible quotes. I imagine it gives one peace of mind for they think they will go to this mystical magical place when they die, therefore they hang onto the idea. It is also a fact that as ones intelligence increases, their religious beliefs decrease.

2007-01-21 09:11:15 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Evolution... that is to transit and change accordingly to a set of rules whereby they themselves evolve and change. In an all seemingly intangible and incoherent, yet bounded, system, we find diversity in its grandest plurality. However hardly understood, even this apparent incoherence is coherent; all dynamic systems sharing between themselves the necessity of inscribing its founding elements and products into a constant dialectic, a constant synthesis, which invariably tends toward an end. Hence, all that is, all that may be thought of it, tends toward the same point and convey its inherent meaning to that single absoluteness. And, still, the most wonderful part of it is which we have yet to answer: how so? It is that, indeed, even postulating the existence of an intrinsically ever evolving system, there ought to have been some sort of basis from which the initial synthesis occurred... As absurd as it may appear to you at the moment, it's by science I prove man all thoughts to not be so subjective, but all based at least upon some inherent ground. If not for that ground, common and absolute, there wouldn't be any transformation of thoughts and no thoughts at all. Same goes for the question of the "Good" in ethics - there cannot be any ethics without an absolute good and not even moral considerations without an objective ground. And, here, we may say the exact same... stating and explaining upon change and upon causality alone is like supposing nothing became something. That may be an hint to the possibility that some form of divinity exists. Of course, I didn't show the existence... I showed the logical possibility.

2016-05-24 08:02:55 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The conclusion that I have come to after years of questioning this is yes, God does exist on some level. Even if it is only in the minds of men. You cannot deny the existence of something that is constantly talked about. The better question is, what is the nature of God. This is where all of the conflicting answers come into play.

I think that we should find and allow others to find what God (or Gods) means to us individually. I do not think that another person will lead you closer to deity, it will just lead you closer to enslavement. Only a personal quest to find deity will lead you closer to God.

In negotiation there is a technique called the 3rd party gambit. It involves making up some "Deciding Committee" that may or may not exist. While negotiating price or other terms, you bring up this commitee as the ultimate decision maker so you dont look like you are the bad guy and you dont have to commit to anything. All the while you are making the the other guy bend to your own will. See the similarities?

2007-01-21 09:22:37 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Because you can't put sand, water and pond goo in a glass and make a living creature. There has to be a supernatural being who created living things. I don't know where God came from but I know that there is a being that created life. Life didn't evolve from rocks. Rocks don't live. Somethings are so mysterious that we can't understand it so we say it's not there but that's not right. There is a reaction for every action. There are things of the spirit that we can't perceive unless the spirit makes contact with us. I think that God is a spirit that made contact with a few special people and the proof of His contact is the bible and the predictions in it that have come true. This is just what I think. I'm not quoting the bible. I'm just saying that this is a tangible element of proof that something made contact with people and explained how we got here.

2007-01-21 09:16:59 · answer #4 · answered by greylady 6 · 0 0

There has to be a beginning; the question is where did that beginning come from. Sure, we all agree that something can't come from nothing, but what is that based on? The laws of this universe. It's what we see. Matter is not created or destroyed; it only changes form. The thing that we all can't decide on is who created that matter? How did it get here? Nobody knows for sure. Here's a really good website which explains it better than I could: http://atheism.about.com/od/argumentsforgod/a/cosmological.htm
The truth is that no one can really know, because we can't go back in time to witness it. We can only look at the facts and decide for ourselves. For some people, it makes sense to believe that God created everything, and for other, it makes sense to believe that no one created the universe.

2007-01-21 09:11:31 · answer #5 · answered by rita_alabama 6 · 0 0

It is hard to grasp the concept that God exists, especially when people define God as infinite, never created, limitless, etc. But when you realize where these concepts derive from, God, and all the concepts about him, makes sense. The argument I'd like to run is that everything with a beginning had to have a cause. The universe had a beginning; therefore the universe had a cause. That cause, being outside the whole universe, is God.

That doesn't solve it for most people, so let me elaborate. Someone might say that some things are caused by other things, but this does not solve the problem. This is because those other things had to have causes too, and this cannot go on forever. You can start with yourself. You came from your mother, and your mother came from her mother and etc, back to the first human. Even if we argue evolution, that also had to start. I guess they argue the simplest organism. The simplest organism may have derived from the earth, but the earth derived from whatever it is that atheists or scientists believe begins a planet. I guess they argue millions of particles joining together. But all those particles came from the universe. Where did the universe come from?

Okay, we could keep arguing that, but eventually you will reach a finite limit to this series. All series are finite (limited) by definition. There is no such thing as an infinite number because even the number series is limited (although you can always add one more, you are always at a finite number). If there is an end, it is not infinite. All series have two endings actually - at the end and at the beginning. That's because we can keep going back and see the end from the beginning of something. But if there was no first cause, the chain of causes never would have started. Therefore there is, at the beginning at least, a first cause - one that had no beginning. This first cause is God.

Here's another way to explain it. It's better, but also a bit more complicated, so read carefully. Let's start by saying things exist. But I can say something exists (like a unicorn or the flying spaghetti monster) and prove to you it exists because there is no way to disprove it. Atheists would like to have me believe that. So how does God exist? Consider a simple example - a triangle. I can say there is a triangle in my room, but that does not guarantee that it exists. It is not in a triangle's nature to exist. If no triangle truly existed at all, I could still define a triangle, I just could not guarantee it exists.

Because it is not part of a triangle's nature to exist, triangles must be made to exist by something that else that already exists (such as myself drawing one on a piece of paper or the wall in my room). But it also does not exist simply because of what I am - so I have to be given existence as well. This cannot go on forever (no infinite series, remember?). Therefore something that does not need to be given existence must exist to give everything else existence. Now apply this example to everything in the universe - does any of it exist on its own? No. So, not only did the universe had to have a first cause to get started, it needs something to give it existence right now. The only thing that would not have to be given existence is a thing that exists as its very nature. It is existence. This thing would always exist, have no cause, have no beginning, have no limit, be outside of time, be infinite . . . sound familiar? It is God, by nature.

I hope you were able to follow that, and I hope it perhaps provides a rational argument for the existence of God.

2007-01-21 09:54:18 · answer #6 · answered by Thardus 5 · 0 0

No one created the big bang. Science does not say that "creation" began at the big bang. What the theory states is that pre-existing matter condensed upon itself through gravity and exploded outward, and the current universe is the remnant of that explosion. It doesn't say that the big bang was the beginning of time or matter, but because most if not all matter was violently transformed in this way, then it is not possible to look further back before the explosion. This makes for a convenient beginning to the history that we can observe. However, it seems perhaps fair to say that time and matter stretch eternally in both directions.

As for the existence of God, there is no evidence to prove it and it can be easily dismissed.

2007-01-21 09:20:49 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I don't think it is possible. The nature of faith is believing in something that is by definition non-falsifiable. Faith is thus irrational.

Using the Bible (or any religious text for that matter) to prove the existence of God is a self-referencing argument in the same way. If proof takes the form of the very thing you are trying to prove, its not rational.

That has nothing to do with whether God does or doesn't exist, its an explanation of what the term rational means.

2007-01-21 09:48:42 · answer #8 · answered by Justin 5 · 1 0

How could I explain something to someone who could never possibly understand it? Who says there was a "big bang"? Was anyone there? Never mind the scientific theories, or the so-called evidence of how the Universe is moving. I'm asking for individual rarionality behind you answer. Something beyond the understanding of present day physics is how the Creator came to be. Stick around here long enough and I may provide the answer but as I said, primitive minds will never understand it.

2007-01-21 09:36:29 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Rationally or logically - they are two different things. Rationally, speaking with conviction, but with preparation in faith in God, in a non-combative give and take exchange. Logically, one of the arguments you made - where did the mass for the big bang originate? Is it more plausible to believe in accidental life or planned life? Researching both sides of the argument and backing your position with fact.

2007-01-21 09:12:05 · answer #10 · answered by padwinlearner 5 · 0 0

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