The Bible says, "Beat them while there is still time", it also says "Provoke them not to anger".

Question

Therein lies the balance. The Bible is about teaching moderation in all things. Every time we go against Biblical instruction are we not doomed to failure? One excellent doctor I know said when he was a kid he didn't need many spankings because it was done correctly. He would be reasoned with, read to from scriptures. prayed with, and then have the consequences of the bad behavior, spank. He never got a spank from anger but in nuturing. Mmm

The question is how many of you agree with this and those of you who don't, why?

Sylvania I am so sorry that happened to you. It surely does sound like abuse to me and did not follow the Biblical standards. I hope that one day you can forgive her for her humanity and move on. Mmmm

Answer 1

Corporal punishment if overused becomes a destructive tool. Provoking a child to anger is just way too easy! Basically, what this means is be consistant. One of the early teachers in my church taught that one well timed, and placed spanking can eliminate the need for future acknowledgments of a child's misbehavior. As a former public educator, I can tell you the NEA agenda, and CPS et al do not want parents to be succesful Christian parents. It's their way or the high way. Honestly, the methodology and practices of public education promote disregard for authority figures. When these young people later become young adults, but have not matured emotionally or mentally, they begin to fill up the jails and prisons. I have been told to teach the children to call CPS or the police, tell someone at school, preferably an adult, if your parent yells at you, spanks you, or otherwise makes you feel uncomfortable, by forcing you to do something...anything that you don't want to do. Now, with that in mind, I read a study done by one of our Nation's top magazines (I believe it was Time Magazine). The study was a report on the exponential increase in adolescent crime after the government of a European country (one of the nordic countries) passed laws forbidding corporal punishment by parents as well as public authority figures such as school staff, etc. I read the article more than 10 years ago, so the details are not clear...but the overall gist was that if you just do 'time-out's' or restricting priveleges, the kids will continue to test you, and try to find your weak spots. Thereby getting away with defiance, and passive aggressive behaviors that when these brats grow into young adults, they don't get rid of. Now think about our national prisoner/inmate crisis...1+1=2! (Feel free to criticize my spelling errors...I typed quickly and did not feel like waiting for the spell checker to complete it's forty year cycle.)

Answer 2

I agree 100% if done right spanking is the bast way to discipline kids. this guy above me is really stupid and is making most of it up. I have studied the bible for over 14 years and done more studies than most people do in 50 years. I know the greek and hebrew translations of most verses. that guy claming that the "rod" is not a term for spanking is a lie. I was spanked and I will spank my kids when needed.

Answer 3

Corporal Punishment should be banned worldwide.

Answer 4

DO YOU THINK THAT WILL WORK???
do you have kids? because i do
and DID YOUR MOTHER EVERBEAT YOU UP?? because my mother did.. she used to beat me all the time when i was teenage, she used to slap my face and compare me with the other kids, it was (and still) hurt my feeling. For your note, i was very sweet girl, i did not do drug or alcohol, i always in good spot on the school, then why did i get abuse like that? BECAUSE THEY THINK IT IS OKEY TO BEAT LITTLE KIDS LIKE ******* SLAVE..and threw their anger to kid, punch them like boxer in training.
Iam 28 right now but i still hate her, even i have 2 sons i don't beat them unless they were to out control.. and one thing i never compare them with any body else like my stupid mother.
so my question back to you.. do you think that will work? no.. because that little kid grew-up someday so fast. and they will HATE you.

Answer 5

This couldn't be further from the truth. The Bible tells you that you are responsible for your child and to teach him correctly.

HITTING IS ACTUALLY NOT BIBLICAL
Don't use the Bible as an excuse to spank. There is confusion in the ranks of people of Judeo-Christian heritage who, seeking help from the Bible in their effort to raise godly children, believe that God commands them to spank. They take "spare the rod and spoil the child" seriously and fear that if they don't spank, they will commit the sin of losing control of their child. In our counseling experience, we find that these people are devoted parents who love God and love their children, but they misunderstand the concept of the rod.

Rod verses - what they really mean. The following are the biblical verseswhich have caused the greatest confusion:

"Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him." (Prov. 22:15)

"He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him." (Prov. 13:24)

"Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die. Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death." (Prov. 23:13-14)

"The rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to itself disgraces his mother." (Prov. 29:15)

At first glance these verses may sound pro-spanking. But you might consider a different interpretation of these teachings. "Rod" (shebet) means different things in different parts of the Bible. The Hebrew dictionary gives this word various meanings: a stick (for punishment, writing, fighting, ruling, walking, etc.). While the rod could be used for hitting, it was more frequently used for guiding wandering sheep. Shepherds didn't use the rod to beat their sheep - and children are certainly more valuable than sheep. As shepherd-author Philip Keller teaches so well in A Shepherd Looks At Psalm 23, the shepherd's rod was used to fight off prey and the staff was used to gently guide sheep along the right path. ("Your rod and your staff, they comfort me." – Psalm 23:4).

Jewish families we've interviewed, who carefully follow dietary and lifestyle guidelines in the Scripture, do not practice "rod correction" with their children because they do not follow that interpretation of the text.

The book of Proverbs is one of poetry. It is logical that the writer would have used a well-known tool to form an image of authority. We believe that this is the point that God makes about the rod in the Bible – parents take charge of your children. When you re-read the "rod verses," use the concept of parental authority when you come to the word "rod," ratherthan the concept of beating or spanking. It rings true in every instance.

While Christians and Jews believe that the Old Testament is the inspired word of God, it is also a historical text that has been interpreted in many ways over the centuries, sometimes incorrectly in order to support the beliefs of the times. These "rod" verses have been burdened with interpretations about corporal punishment that support human ideas. Other parts of the Bible, especially the New Testament, suggest that respect, authority, and tenderness should be the prevailing attitudes toward children among people of faith.

In the New Testament, Christ modified the traditional eye-for-an-eye system of justice with His turn-the-other-cheek approach. Christ preached gentleness, love, and understanding, and seemed against any harsh use of the rod, as stated by Paul in 1 Cor. 4:21: "Shall I come to you with the whip (rod), or in love and with a gentle spirit?" Paul went on to teach fathers about the importance of not provoking anger in their children (which is what spanking usually does): "Fathers, do not exasperate your children" (Eph. 6:4), and "Fathers, do not embitter your children, or they will be discouraged" (Col. 3:21).

In our opinion, nowhere in the Bible does it say you must spank your child to be a godly parent.

SPARE THE ROD!There are parents who should not spank and children who should not be spanked. Are there factors in your history, your temperament, or your relationship with your child that put you at risk for abusing your child? Are there characteristics in your child that make spanking unwise?

* Were you abused as a child?
* Do you lose control of yourself easily?
* Are you spanking more, with fewer results?
* Are you spanking harder?
* Is spanking not working?
* Do you have a high-need child? A strong-willed child?
* Is your child ultrasensitive?
* Is your relationship with your child already distant?
* Are there present situations that are making you angry, such as financial or marital difficulties or a recent job loss? Are there factors that are lowering your own self-confidence?

If the answer to any of these queries is yes, you would be wise to develop a no-spanking mindset in your home and do your best to come up with noncorporal alternatives. If you find you are unable to do this on your own, talk with someone who can help you.

Answer 6

the bible says a lot of crazy crap that no one knows for sure is even true, so why base your life on it.

Answer 7

Do you have a question, or are you just preaching, because this is not the place. Keep your crazy bible provoked opinions to yourself if you don't have any real questions to ask.