The bathroom ceiling has been scraped and kilz primer, sealer, painted, a bigger exhaust fan put in and now it's flaking again? What's the cause of it, and what can I do to prevent it from happening again?
2007-01-21 03:17:25 · 11 answers · asked by weasel1654 1 in Home & Garden ➔ Decorating & Remodeling
Sounds like the drywall got moist. You need to scrape the whole mess again and let everything dry out completely. If the drywall is still moist you need to replace it. Once dry, apply primer (make sure to follow directions and let it dry completely). Paint the ceiling with flat paint appropriate to bathrooms,let dry and then apply sealer.
2007-01-21 03:26:57 · answer #1 · answered by battledragon6 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Moisture from your shower causes this problem. Especially with blown acoustic. You should have gone with an oil based paint after you scraped and applied the KILZ.
Try not using the shower for a few days to allow the ceiling to dry completely.
Then scrap off ALL loose paint. Apply a good coat of OIL based Kilz. Allow drying time. Apply two coats of quality (interior) oil based, low sheen paint. I recommend Sherwin Williams.
NEVER use cheap paint.
P.S. Sorry,but water based primers suck....What I suggested WILL stop the peeling.
2007-01-21 03:55:08 · answer #2 · answered by TWOBEARS 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Texture off ceiling, even in the Garage or anywhere will flake off in a few years and cause great problems if the mix for the texture is altered too greatly by adding TOO MUCH LATEX PAINT.
TOO MUCH LATEX PAINT added to regular Top Coat, which is what texture for ceilings is made from causes the bonding of Gypsm to dry wall to decrease and deteroriate in a few years.
The reason Contractors add TOO MUCH LATEX PAINT is that they want to cover the ceiling and have it Look Good with out using too much time or texture material. Remember, paint is a good hider of the drywall paper surface!!! So they add large quantity of it to the mix for texture and it eventually falls off.
I have encountered Garages and even family rooms where the failure was a mess. We had to remove the entire ceiling drywall.
You might try using an ordinary spray gun with a water and kitchen detergent sprayed directly onto the ceiling. Use about 2
tsp to a quart. and spray the ceiling wetting it down well. Otherwise you will have to patch repair the texture. Dont use a roller on it that will drag more of it off. Of course the spraying you need a gun and compressor to do the job.
Good Luck
2007-01-21 05:39:47 · answer #3 · answered by James M 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This is a fairly modern idea mixing paint or painting over PVA. It is not taught in college and all the time-served decorators I have asked have never heard of it - and I also have worked as the paint advisor in a trade decorators merchants and no trained painters have heard of it either. It is difficult to advise you as I don't know if your plaster wasn't dry or there was a chalky residue acting as a barrier or you didn't thin your first coat of paint or you used the wrong paint. Or you used emulsion in a very high condensation area. Scrape the loose paint off. Don't repaint until you are sure the plaster is dry and wipe it with your hand to confirm there is no chalky residue - if there is, wipe it off. Kitchen and Bathroom paint is a bit gimmicky. The best water resisitant bathroom paint is Dulux trade Quick Drying Eggshell, but expensive. The first coat on bare plaster is thinned out. Then add two more. You could prime the bare plaster with Bullseye 123, but unless your stripping all the paint off you might have new areas come away later anyway, so it might be a waste of money.
2016-05-24 05:16:48 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It does sound like a real moisture problem. Is it the shower you use the most for the long hot showers? I would scrape the ceiling, kilz it and do not go back with acoustic. Just use a flat paint.
2007-01-21 03:22:50 · answer #5 · answered by mamaknows 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Definitely a moisture issue (leak above?, wet drywall when repaired?). Experts recommend that you run the fan vent for at least 20 min. after bathing to remove the excess moisture. It doesn't take much to get started, but when it does, it goes fast. Make sure the drywall is completely dry before trying to repair. Once repaired, prime (any primer will work) and paint with an eggshell acrylic finish paint. This will give you a hard, almost impenetrable surface. Feel free to email me with any other questions. Good luck.
2007-01-21 03:37:16 · answer #6 · answered by tim r 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
1st you should use a water based primer like zinzeer 123, this is more flexible than the kilz, let dry for the day and if you need that bathroom to shower go ahead but give it a good 6 to 8 hrs before showering and last but most important i'd use zinzeers bathroom paint which is garunteed for 5 yrs, good luck. also check your insulation for moisture, pull up a little in that joist area and look for water stains, good luck
2007-01-21 03:54:34 · answer #7 · answered by Les the painter 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The most likely cause is the heat and humidity from your shower. The steam hits the cold plaster and the moisture sets in which causes condensation on the surface. Look for a product that seals against moisture and make sure it has a chance to dry thoroughly before the next coat is added. If you can, avoid showering in that bathroom for a week or two so the plaster can dry and cure
2007-01-21 03:27:40 · answer #8 · answered by kikithefashiontiki 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Too much moisture in the bathroom. I would suggest using an oil-based paint on the ceiling. It adheres better to the surface and cleans better than acrylic or enamel paint. Be prepared for a stronger odor when painting and use paint thinner to cleanup, but it is well worth it in the end.
2007-01-21 04:25:36 · answer #9 · answered by Butterfly 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
How humid does your bathroom get after taking a shower? Occasionally if it gets to humid ceilings will peel. What room is above the bathroom? Could there be a leak somewhere?
2007-01-21 04:06:00 · answer #10 · answered by pippintacious 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋