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there was news saying that some catholic churches have changed and ditch the prayers to saints and mary. Please support this point

2007-01-21 00:58:49 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I'm really sorry about this. But let me get this right.. is there any catholic churches that changed their principle not to pray to Mary and the Saints anymore? Show evidence please

2007-01-21 22:28:12 · update #1

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The Communion of Saints is the spiritual union which unites the faithful upon earth, the souls in Purgatory, and the saints in Heaven in the one Mystical Body, the Church, of which Jesus Christ is the Head, and the participation of all in the one supernatural life. The saints by their closeness to God obtain of Him many graces and favors for the faithful on earth and the souls in Purgatory; the faithful on earth by their prayers and good works honor and love the saints, and succor the suffering souls by their prayers, and the holy sacrifice of the Mass.

The Gospels on every page speak of the kingdom of God as a divine, spiritual kingdom established by Christ (Matt. iii. 2; xii. 28; Mark i. 5; Luke xvii. 20), and united in the bond of charity (Matt. iii. 11; v. 48; Luke xii. 49). It embraces all the elect on earth and in heaven, even the angels (Matt. xix. 29; Apoc. xxi. 10-27). St. John speaks of this Communion as "the fellowship with us, and our fellowship with the Father, and His Son, Jesus Christ" (1 John i. 3). St. Paul speaks of it as the Mystical Body of Christ, of which all the faithful are members (Rom. xii. 5; 1 Cor. xii. 12, 27; Eph. i. 22; Col. i. 18; ii. 19; iii. 15). All share in the same spiritual blessings (1 Cor. xii. 13; Eph. ii. 13-20), merits (Rom. xii. 4-6; 1 Cor. xii. 25; Eph. iv. 3, 7-13), and prayers (Rom. i. 9; xv. 30; Phil. i. 3-5; Col. iv. 12).

Catholics adore God alone, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They love and reverence the Blessed Virgin, because God honored her above all creatures by choosing her to be the Mother of His only Son. St. Epiphanius in the fourth century condemned the Collyridians, the only sect in history, who gave her divine honors, saying: "We do not adore the saints. . . . Let Mary then be honored, but the Father, Son and Holy Ghost alone be adored" (Adv. Collyrid., 29).

God alone is Omnipresent. The power of the Blessed Virgin to know our particular wants, and to answer our prayers no more implies omnipresence than my power to grant the request of a friend thousands of miles away implies my presence in that place. When Eliseus saw the ambush prepared for the King of Israel was he necessarily in Syria at the time (4 Kings vi. 9)? God can make known to His saints what we need, as we learn from His words in Job: "Go to My servant Job, and offer up a holocaust for yourselves; and My servant Job shall pray for you; for him I w:'U accept lest I deal with you according to your folly" (Job xlii. 8;. The saints see God "face to face as He is" (1 Cor. iii. 12; 1 John iii. 2), and Li seeing God, they see in Him as in a mirror all that happens upon earth.

Catholics adore God alone, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They love and reverence the Blessed Virgin, because God honored her above all creatures by choosing her to be the Mother of His only Son. St. Epiphanius in the fourth century condemned the Collyridians, the only sect in history, who gave her divine honors, saying: "We do not adore the saints. . . . Let Mary then be honored, but the Father, Son and Holy Ghost alone be adored" (Adv. Collyrid., 29).

God alone is Omnipresent. The power of the Blessed Virgin to know our particular wants, and to answer our prayers no more implies omnipresence than my power to grant the request of a friend thousands of miles away implies my presence in that place. When Eliseus saw the ambush prepared for the King of Israel was he necessarily in Syria at the time (4 Kings vi. 9)? God can make known to His saints what we need, as we learn from His words in Job: "Go to My servant Job, and offer up a holocaust for yourselves; and My servant Job shall pray for you; for him I w:'U accept lest I deal with you according to your folly" (Job xlii. 8;. The saints see God "face to face as He is" (1 Cor. iii. 12; 1 John iii. 2), and Li seeing God, they see in Him as in a mirror all that happens upon earth.

Miracles did not end with the Apostles. Christ Himself promised that miracles would always be a mark of His true Church, and a gift He would always bestow upon His faithful followers, the saints (Mark xvi. 17, 18; John xiv. 12). No unprejudiced man can read the testimony for the miracles of the saints canonized by the Apostolic See, and study the strict rules laid down by Pope Benedict XIV for the Church's guidance, without being convinced of their authenticity. Indeed evidence, which outsiders have considered convincing, has as a matter of fact been rejected by the Congregation of Rites at Rome as untrustworthy. The miracles wrought at Lourdes through the intercession of our Lady are always put to the severest tests of scientific scrutiny. The evidence may be read in the works of Bertrin, Boissarie, Marchand and others.

Miracles are historical facts, and, therefore, are always to be weighed according to the rules of historical evidence. Catholics are not bound to accept the pseudo-miracles of the medieval chroniclers, or of modern pious sentimentalists, but they strenuously protest against that modern rationalistic prejudice, which refuses to consider any evidence for their happening, because of a false presupposition of their impossibility.

Lingard, after mentioning many undoubted miracles in the history of the Anglo-Saxon Church writes: "There are also many which must shrink from the frown of criticism; some may have been the effect of accident or imagination; some that are more calculated to excite the smile than the wonder of the readers; and some which . . . depend on the distant testimony of writers not remarkable for sagacity or discrimination" (Antiquities of the Anglo-Saxon Church, xii., 6).

Source(s):

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2007-01-22 05:56:47 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I am not terribly authoritative lol, someone will come along who is, but...Mary and the saints have never been WORSHIPPED. They are venerated, meaning we are reverent towards them because of their holiness. Some Catholcs are VERY devoted to Mary especially, as the MOther of God. Marian devotion seems to be one of the major differences between Catholcs and much of the Protestant world, and one cause was the misuse of "indulgences" in the Middle Ages, along with other abuses by clergy, many of whom were not necessarily "in it" for spiritual reasons.

I have not read of any specific Church community going so far as to "ditch" , but I am sure there are some who wish to de-emphasize. What I have read about was certain Protestant sects becoming less hostile to Marian devotion.

2007-01-21 01:13:07 · answer #2 · answered by and_y_knot 6 · 2 0

No Catholic, Roman, Eastern, Byzantine or Anglo..."worships" The Blessed Virgin or any Saint. We reserve worship for the Most Holy and blessed Trinity only. That is clear in our doctrine and catechism. You might want to read it some time before making ludicrous statements. I do ask for the continuing prayers and intercession of all Christian Brothers and Sisters, living or dead. Why? Because Scripture teaches us that "death" is on the list of things that do not separate us from the love of Christ.

2007-01-21 01:07:39 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

Worshipping Mary or the saints has NEVER been a part of Catholicism. We worship only God.

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2007-01-21 01:29:57 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Have you eve seen teeth of a chicken. That's easy to find than catholic churches changing.

2007-01-21 01:08:52 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Pastor Art, with all due respect, why do you feel that we cannot ask the Blessed Mother, the saints, or even our family/friends to pray for us here one earth? Sure, they are "dead" in a physical sense... but do not forget, they are more ALIVE than ever, in Heaven, with Christ. With peace and love in Christ

2016-03-29 07:22:35 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Catholics don't worship Mary, but they do pray to her.

2007-01-21 01:13:37 · answer #7 · answered by Last Ent Wife (RCIA) 7 · 1 0

lets get this strait now!!!!!!!!! Catholics dont worship Mary at all. They simply accknolage her as the mother of Jesus.

2007-01-21 01:09:03 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

If this is tru, then it wouldn't be a Catholic Church!

2007-01-21 01:08:01 · answer #9 · answered by Mee-OW =^..^= 7 · 0 0

Where'd you hear that one? The catlicks changed the doctrine again?! This ought to be a good one.

2007-01-21 01:04:25 · answer #10 · answered by INDRAG? 6 · 0 2

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