LEARN TO READ! What are your thoughts about the practice of magic within the Christian religion?

Question

It would seem that many people simply did not read my previous question but were still more than willing to supply an answer. Please carefully read the question.

What are your opinions concerning the practice of magic in the Christian religion?

NOTE: Christians cut the hair of their temples, take part in non-recreational activites on the Sabbath, and pass judgement on their peers. All of these, like magic, are either forbidden or reserved for God himself.
NOTE: Do not tell me that Christians do not practice magic. I am Christian and I am a necromancer. Necromancy, or black divination, was once a clerical art.
NOTE: Do not tell me magic isn't real. Magic was at sometime very real in nearly every culture.
NOTE: Do not tell I am going to hell. I am not, and I'd hate for you to be a liar.

Answer 1

Magic is the mother of all sciences, it isnt condemned by religion because anyone that is a proper witch knows that magic deals with natural forces, and has nothing to do with devil worship, as for the demonology, well that isnt wrong as well because solomon king practised it, plus one cant be evil as a witch the three fold law will prevent it, God is great and magic is a blessing that God gave us his children.
Blessed be

Answer 2

I'm pretty sure that the the earlier churches around the 5th century had in-house alchemists and that priests practised magic. Many rituals performed today in church probably have links to the magical rituals performed in the time of the church's inception in the Dark Ages. The medieval Church was very tolerant and accommodating with magic which gives the image of possessing a vast reservoir of magical power. Church officials fought against magic with one hand, while accommodating--perhaps exploiting--magic with the other. I would suggest that you do some research on early alchemy and its connection with the church. There are some good books about the connection between religion and magic, as well as the ensuing separation from about the 16th century. Find a Theosophical bookstore in your area or contact the Theosophical Society on-line. Their bookstores carry such a vast array of books on so many topics, all relating to belief whether modern or ancient. I think you may find that what you are doing is actually very traditionalist, if you where to consider that the church didn't really begin until around the 5th century. Good luck!

Answer 3

1. There is nothing wrong with magic tricks, on the Sabbath or not.

2. The Sabbath is a Jewish tradition, not necessarily a Christian one. Remember that in Acts 15, we are specifically told which of the OT laws to obey as gentiles, and the Sabbath was not one of them. (Also do not forget that the EXAMPLES of the Sabbath in the New Testament almost all involve adult Jews.)

3. If you were a necromancer, you would know that necromancy means communicating with the dead, not the same thing as black magic. There is no evidence that we can listen to the dead, and no Biblical support for the idea.

If you could PROVE that you can hear the dead, James Randi has an easy million dollars for you to earn. http://www.randi.org

4. If you could prove that you can do magic apart from magic tricks- collect your million from Randi for that. Heck, it might be good for a second award!

To date NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE has EVER proven that magic as you describe exists. We have looked for evidence of it for years, and found nada, zilch, nothing. As a teen I dabbled in it and believed in it, and as an adult I see how badly deluded I was in this.

5. If you are taking the legalistic definition of the Sabbath, why are you also not taking the legalistic command of Dueteronomy 18:10 literally:"There must not be found among you anyone who makes his son or daughter pass through fire, a diviner, a soothsayer, an enchanter, a sorcerer,"? How about Exodus 18:22 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."?

Answer 4

yes the reason magic 'seamed' real in all early cultures is because they used it as an excuse to explain the unknown.

IE Every year the bass came up the river. They didnt know why they did, so they believed the god of the rivers was blessing them with fish for their good deeds.

Another example. Termites would eat the wood in a shelter. The wood would arode and colapse on some one killing them. They didnt know that termites where the cause of the shelter 'mysteriuosly' collapsing. They believed some one put a curse on that individual.

I can go on forever.

Answer 5

Necromancy within Christianity is like fu**ing for virginity. Christians believe that the dead have either gone to their reward or turned to dust awaiting the resurrection -- either way they'd not be available to play necromancy with you. Get it? Even if necromancy was real which it ain't.

Schizophrenics have all manner of delusions and hallucinations but that doesn't make them necromancers. Ask you doctor about antipsychotic medications.

Answer 6

The Bible has ALOT to say about Witchcraft and Magick. However, basically, what it all boils down to "in the end" is THIS: "mankind is not permitted to used magick simply because its too young and immature and doesn't know the consequences or its actions from doing so. That doesn't mean that one day, in the far future, mankind, after having attained perfection wont' be allowed to perform magick. Its just that right NOW, its simply not allowed. We're still way to young as a race and way to immature as people." In essence, we can't tell what's real magick and what is demonology, such as the Witch of Endor summoning the Spirit of Samuel, when in FACT she really got a demon in disguise, thus causing King Sauls death the next day.

Until we can educate ourselves on the differences and/or the differences are removed (as when Satan and his demons are destroyed) and then magick will be SAFE, then it will and should be allowed. Right now, its like giving matches to kids.

Answer 7

I'm saying that if you are going to be a christian, you can't involve Paganism (necromancy is originally Egyptian, but it roots to Paganism I think.) into it because it's a clash or conflict of the interests. You can believe in a single god if you want to, you can practice clerical arts, but together is just ironic and non-existent. It's just not plausible.

Answer 8

Real born again Christians do not practice occult magic. I know this because I use to practice wicca and read tarot and I burned it all after I got saved. Amen!
Yes, you are correct, magic is real and evil practice coming from satan.
I won't tell you that you are going to hell, I will let God do that. Just read Deuteronomy 18:10-12, 2 Chronicles33:6,

Answer 9

Either you like to play with words, or you are in denial.

Miracles of the church are supernatural acts of the Holy Spirit, manifest for us, in cooperation with the church and the faithful.

Magic is something else entirely.

And if it's not of God, then who do you think it is from?

Simon Magus was a magician in early church times, who met his death due to his lack of reverence for the authentic power of God.

As for anyone going to hell, that's up to God to judge, not us.

But don't be too sure of your destination, yet.

Magic has no effect on God.

Answer 10

It's perfectly fine by me. Religion and Magic are basically tricks of the mind that one plays on one's self. Christianity, at least to me, is about helping other people in any way you can. If you do that with "magic" (which usually relies on physics, chemistry, or hypnosis) then great. If you do it with prayer, which in my opinion is just a form of self hypnosis (you force your mind to believe you are communicating with god and that god answers you) then that's fine too.