Does anyone know much the fine is for a 12500(A) unlicenced driver. and does having a permit at the time count

Answer 1

No, a permit is not a license so it doesn't count. The fines vary from state to state, but $150 - $500 is pretty common. Some states also impound the vehicle for 30 days as well, even if the driver doesn't own it. A tow and 30 days of storage fees will often exceed $1,000.