OK, here is the story. I found this sweet Lhasa Apso loose in the neighborhood. She was about 5 or 6 years old. She disn't seem to like other dogs, but got along well with my kids.
Well, when I realized that she was in heat, I took her to the pound. My male Shih Tzu isn't fixed, so I thought that I shouldn't have them near each other and couldn't risk my kids not monitoring them well.
Now I see here at YA that I could be making money on breeding them together! I could have had Lhasa Shihs!!! What was I thinking!
What do you think? Did I deprive her of "the feelings of motherhood"? Did I missed out on "cute little puppies"? And couldn't I have made a lot of money selling these pure-bred designer CKC papered pups?
2007-01-19 15:37:44 · 26 answers · asked by Katslookup - a Fostering Fool! 6 in Pets ➔ Dogs
Forgot to mention that it was a no-kill shelter. And she was adopted out after the 5 day waiting period and her spaying, to a wonderful older woman who wanted a companion.
What a waste!
2007-01-19 15:44:38 · update #1
Hehe, I love how people don't look at previous answers from question askers. *grin*
I'm ashamed of you, Kat, passing up a business opportunity like that and not even offering to let me in on it. ;) Shame, shame, shame.....
She was a cutie though, and very well-behaved. I'm sure her new owner adores her....
I wonder how much I could have made on Bosta Apsos.....
*runs off and starts a new "breed"* j/k!
2007-01-19 16:53:46 · answer #1 · answered by gimmenamenow 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
1.) I own a Lhasa Apso that I adopted from the local Rescue League. He spent only one day there before I heard of him and took him home with me, but that is far from the norm. Little dogs stand a better chance of being adopted, but the reality is that any dog surrendured to the pound is at risk of being "put down" unless it is a "no-kill" shelter.
2.) I now have a wonderful pet that I wouldn't trade for the world! It hasn't anything to do with breeding him (although I have no problem with RESPONSIBLE breeding), and the folks that let him go have no idea what a wonderful treasure they surrendered. OH--and just FYI you would NOT have been selling pure breed puppies! They would have been cross breeds which significantly lowers the price. The fact that you didn't know that kind of scares me a bit.
3.) Lhasa's are NOT a breed for everybody. They are stubborn and opinionated, and a tad (well, actually a lot) sassy. If that is not what someone is looking for in a dog they should NOT get one because no amount of disciplining will change that. That is simply a well-known characteristic of the breed.
I'm not well versed on the personality of the shih tzu, but if they are more laid back then why would we want this mix is an important question to ask before breeding.
At this point I wouldn't regret over the breeding potential. You might have made a few bucks off of an adorable mix, but unless you know a good bit about responsible breeding I wouldn't recommend that either. You could be perpetuating undesirable traits without knowing it if you're not sure of what you are doing.
Good question which raises many important issues.
2007-01-19 16:08:43 · answer #2 · answered by team_bar1o 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
It's a good thing that she was adopted by someone else & SPAYED since there SO MANY puppies that r on the streets because NO ONE wants them!! Do u REALIZE how many dogs/puppies r on the streets from owners who didn't have their dogs spayed & got pregnant & couldn't find loving homes? A lot as well as stray dogs out there that r getting pregnant & have no one 2 take their pups? I don't think anyone should breed until we have the dog population under control. Where the shelters don't have any or @ least not many dogs/pups that need homes!! Y ADD 2 THE CRISIS OF STRAY DOGS/PUP? I'm glad u gave her away so she can b in a LOVING HOME & NOT WORRY ABOUT MISSING THE PUPS U WOULD HAVE SOLD 4 $!!!!!!!!!
My Brothers used 2 breed retrivers, labs, & collies. Then he had 2 litters that NO ONE wanted from the 6 females!! He wound up having his females spayed & the pups finally went 2 a santuary till it closed down! When it closed down he went 2 get his pups back & found out that the new owners had sold them to a dog mill 4 $150 a pup. The butcher just wanted the pups 2 add 2 his collection & 2 make more pups! 4 of the six pup died because they got pregnant on their 2nd heat & got hurt (all the pups were still born) the females died after delivery! The other 2 he did save just 2 find out he had 2 put them down casue they were 2 wild 2 b near people!!
The dog mill told my brothers that the only good pup was a pregnant pup 2 b sold 2 whoever was the highest bidder!! He no longer breeds any animals & all his 6 dogs r spayed & netured!! He no longer puts $ over pupies lives like many people do!!
2007-01-19 16:16:15 · answer #3 · answered by Missy 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, you didn't deprive her of anything. Since she is purebred and a small breed she will have a better shot at getting adopted and she will be spayed which will be good for her health as well.
You can't register mixed breed dogs. Shih Tzu and Lhasa Apso mixes would be mixed breed dogs. Some sell mixes like this for more than the price of a pound puppy but it isn't to the dog's advantage to breed her. If she looked 5 or 6 yrs old to you, she could have been 8 or 10. That breed has a pretty long average life span. You did the right thing.
You probably would have spent more on the pregnancy and health care needs of the mother and the pups had you kept her, as far as money goes.
2007-01-19 15:48:52 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Maybe you could have made some money. But does that solve the horrible pet overpopulation problem? 17 million dogs, cats, kittens, and puppies are euthanized every year. Mutts are perfectly good pets and they often don't have the health problems caused by inbreeding. Why would you want to continue this horrid practice of breeding animals for profit and prestige, a habit that results in the deaths of millions of animals. You are feeling you deprived her of motherhood, but by breeding her, you could have also deprived her of her life. What if she died giving birth? What if something went wrong and the puppies got sick, and you had to pay big vet bills before being able to sell the puppies? You cannot give the puppies away immediately. They would have to stay with the mom for feeding for some time. During that time, you would have to clean up their bathroom messes, buy puppy pads, etc. They would cry lots. Some dogs don't nurse their puppies with the first litter. You might have to buy formula and feed them yourself or sit with her and make her feed the babies. If you feel you are missing out on cute puppies, go to the pound, and look at the long line of them going into the gas chamber.
What if you could not sell everyone of the puppies? Then off to the pound they would go. You might end up with more litters than expected, if you decided to never have her spayed. What if she got out and mated with the neighbor's dog, then you wouldn't even have these "wonderful" purebreds. And, anyway, you don't have the stray one's papers, and hoity toity people like to see the lineage of the animals. I wouldn't lose sleep over the decision not to breed them. If I were you, I would seriously consider having the male spayed, if only to do the rest of the community a favor.
2007-01-19 16:09:01 · answer #5 · answered by FlowersinWinter 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Yes, you did the right thing! There are WAY too many unwanted animals now! Do you have experience with breeding? Do you have any idea what could go wrong? And what if you couldn't sell the puppies? Would you then take THEM to the shelter? And how would you get papers on puppies when you don't know the lineage of the mother? Puppies are LOTS and LOTS of work and delivering them is no fun either. If something went wrong you'd owe your vet more than you could have possibly made selling the puppies. Plus, you probably would lose all the pups and the mom too! This dog also belongs to someone who is missing her dearly. Hopefully they will know to contact the shelter when looking for her. And if she is not claimed, the shelter will have her fixed for the next owner. This will prevent reproductive cancers later! She will not be deprived of the feelings of motherhood because she won't know any differently! P.S. Have your male fixed!!
2007-01-19 15:52:14 · answer #6 · answered by sweetiepie 3 · 4⤊ 0⤋
You were nice to take the dog in, you were nice to bring her to the shelter. I am glad you did not breed her.
#1 you know nothing of the health, temperment, type, soundess, or ability to breed of that female. You had her for a couple days. That is nowhere near enough to know if that dog is good enough to breed.
# 2 that dog being 5 to 6 years old is too old to breed for the first time and too old to breed for the last time. Prime breeding age is when the dog is 2 years to 4 years old and they shouldnt have more than 1 litter a year.
# 3 if she is 5 to 6 years old most likely someone already used her for breeding, and probably far too many times if she was left to wander about the streets in heat with no care as to having a collar with tags or microchip. You would doing her harm in breeding her.
# 4 there is no need to breed Lasa's and Shih tzu's together. This is a mutt (hy-bred) and not a purbred dog with no proof of pedigree. You can not paper the dog, this is not a designer dog its a travesty to the dog world. CKC? are you talking Canadian Kennel Club or Contental Kennel Club, as far as I know niether will register a mixed breed, if they do they are not worth having as a kennel club and those dogs will never be recognized by other kennel clubs in the world.
#5 is your male in optimum health? Has he ever bred before? is he a show dog? Is he standard with absolutely no abnormalities? Is he in Prime breeding condition. More than one ignorant breeder has had to get there male to an emergency room after breeding there dogs for the first time, cause a female can do a heck of a lot of damage to his weenie if they dont breed properly. HAVE you ever bred a dog or seen how it happens? Do you know what to do if the dog ties improperly or his erection/penis engorgment does not go down? Do you know all the diffrent sexually transmitted diseases a dog can pick up?
#6 Are you aware that dogs are hostages to there hormones, there body and brain tell them to breed, they dont breed cause momma dog wants to experiance Motherhood. They are driven by hormones so strong, that the overwhelming need to supprese them take over there cognitive thinking. They dont care if they ever are mothers or not.
2007-01-19 16:00:27 · answer #7 · answered by I luv Pets 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
im sorry to offend, but what a foul question. breeding is not about making money!!!! the pups would not be purebred at all. they would be mixed breeds. the dog u found shouldnt really be carrying pupies at her age. u DID NOT deprive her of feelings of mother hood at all!!!! it is irrisponsible backyard breeders like urself why i deal with so many mistreated, stray, neglected, badly bred poor dogs every day. how would u know what u were breeding?! how would u know the lhasa's past? maybe she has hip dysplacia or other horrible genetic problems that u would then breed into mix breed pups and sell for a fortune, only to have the poor owners of the new pup spend THOUSANDS on vet bills to fix it!! or better yet, the new owners of the pups would give them away or abandon them... do u even now the first thing about breeding? these kinds of questions get me so worked up. get ur male dog spayed PLEASE!
2007-01-19 15:55:53 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
You did the right thing taking her there, breeding a dog for money isn't a good idea at all and they aren't deprived of motherhood if they feel the need they will just nuture the children in a home or their owners or other animals and cute little puppies are a handful and require a lot of care and money. So you did the right thing taking her there.
2007-01-19 15:54:02 · answer #9 · answered by momof3boys 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Not a waste. She received the best possible outcome.
Mixed breed dogs are not pure bred and a ckc registration is the same as nothing. If a dog can't be AKC registered, it is not a pure bred dog. You did the right thing, now keep on doing good and have your dog neutered, he will live longer too.
2007-01-19 17:33:46 · answer #10 · answered by empresspekes 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋