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I know many pro illegals claim that they are "pay taxes" and are just "hard working people that want a better opportunity" ....but I also know that many steal Social Security #s and legal citizens identity. Is this how they claim they "pay taxes", by using a stolen Social Security #? Why can't these thefts be traced back to the thieves stealing the identities?? How can these pro illegals claim that this is ok??

2007-01-19 15:19:11 · 19 answers · asked by none 2 in Politics & Government Immigration

19 answers

Be a "chicken catcher" in Lower Delaware at Prudue, somehow they do it.

2007-01-19 15:30:31 · answer #1 · answered by Yo it's Me 7 · 0 0

First of all, there are hard-working people all over the world, who want a better opportunity. If anyone knows of someone who does not want a better opportunity, please let us all in on it. I know that I am and everyone that I have ever met is always looking for a better opportunity; however, that does not give license to breaking the law: illegally crossing borders, stealing social security numbers, etc.

Secondly, the red-herring argument that 'We are a nation of immigrants,' ergo keep the borders open until we sink is first class lunacy. If anyone knows of a nation (geographical boundary) that did not rise from migrating peoples, please let us all in on it. Immigration is not uniquely American. What is unique is the unmetered mass flow of humanity (both legal and illegal) into a finite geographical area we call the United States, the detrimental consequences of which many alert citizens, to their disgust and anger, are becoming aware. If any of the wimpish, touchy-feely out there do not know what it is like to live in a 3rd World country with its crowded and cess-pool atmosphere, I strongly suggest that you take a year or two off and live in Africa, Mexico, China, Viet-Nam. Those countries did not get that way by accident; it is cultural and racial elements more than anything else which forge a nation's reproductive capacity for better or ill. Another unique aspect of this is the Alice-in-Wonderland view of immigration, which does not view immigration in light of what is best for the nation, but, rather, whatever is good for the immigrant. Underlying this absurd notion is whatever is good for the politician and certain commercial interests. Traditionally, immigration was based on what was good for the country commensurate with existing population and culture. Only gross ignorance or malice would argue for anything other that what is good for the nation and its taxpaying citizens.

As to the stealing of Social Security Account Numbers (SSANs), yes, that is how it is claimed that they pay taxes. How they can get away with it is anyone's guess, but I would put my money on corruption in government, politicians, and the mindless minions who elect them to office. Regardless of how they get away with it, it is never OK to break the law, especially when it means national suicide. This will go on until we have either an armed revolution or civil war in this country or a nationalistic political party enters the arena with a candidate who stands up and puts America First and tolerates no nonsense from the effete and depraved in academia, media, and the fools that continue to give them their continued support.

2007-01-20 00:42:28 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yeah, I agree with that. If you appear before a judge for stealing money from a bank and use the defense "well, the greedy bank employees helped me steal the money, and only did it because I need to feed my family, do you think he'll say well...its ok I understand...we'll just put the greedy bank employees in jail, you can go home and take care of your family.
NO he won't!! It's still just as much a crime for you as anyone else Millions of poor people in this country (and others throughout the world) have a family to take care of also that don't break the law to do it. A poor family is no excuse to conduct illegal activity in the eyes of the law of any country!!!!!!!!!

2007-01-20 00:07:07 · answer #3 · answered by ProUSA2 6 · 1 0

The INS is a freaking joke, our government is neglectful in protecting our country from them and our laws are screwed up.

Oh, if they want money all they have to do is commit a crime, get shot and then sue. It's the American way for mexicans.

Harsh punishment needs to come to those that employ them and those that know this is going on and ignores the issue.

Don't expect a logical answer from a pro illegal, but do expect some vile comments from some. If not, I'll be surprised.

2007-01-19 23:27:35 · answer #4 · answered by patrioticpeladac 4 · 0 0

Well, one pro-illegal was smoked out in the open so far, whose defense for the illegal aliens was "No one is snatching real social security numbers from real people" FALSE.
and blaming the theft on "GREEDY AMERICANS".
You cannot justify illegal behavior by blaming it on others...period. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. And justifying illegal behavior with a hard luck story won't keep anybody out of jail. If you appear before a judge in any country and try tell him well, I am just trying to feed my family as a defense, you will still land in jail, don't you think??????????

2007-01-19 23:46:25 · answer #5 · answered by whiz 4 · 1 1

Most illegals are able to work here in the USA because they are hired by Americans greedy for cheap labor.Its only a small minority that actually are able to purchase (price is also high) false social security cards and the such.No one is snatching real social security cards from real people.If you check into who is Selling these false social security cards the majority again will be greedy Americans.Why do you think the illegals got to be such a large number-because they were able to get work-again from GREEDY Americans. The main culprit is the human failing of Greed.If you were a poor person in another country with no opportunities in your country to better yourself or better things for your family- your children and you heard of how in America you can-wouldn't you risk to have a better life-to not hear your kids cry from hunger---the motivation of most illegals

2007-01-19 23:30:23 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

The damn wetbacks come here ileagaly. The dumb *** goverment feels sorry for them they get welfare and foodstamps.
When they work they only pay federal tax! Woulndt that **** be nice! The Mexican goverment helps them get here. And our Country still gives mexico money and lets them stay in nafta. The politicans dont care because thats more votes for them1 So I say stop bitching about it no one gives a damn! Before long they will be draning Social Sec you paid in all of your lifes and they paid nothing in to it.

2007-01-19 23:33:13 · answer #7 · answered by Joe Blow 1 · 2 0

Although they do often work under false identification, when it comes tax time they can get a legal (some kind of) # which is only valid for them to do taxes with. Nice huh? USA USA!

2007-01-19 23:31:36 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Some of those so called "pro illegals" are most likely illegal themselves.

2007-01-19 23:31:28 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Obviously you need to look into the word corruption, even though it's most likely that you wont hear about it so openly here in the USA, but my friend let me tell you something. I know Plenty of white Americans who are contractors and they fool our government.

2007-01-19 23:24:55 · answer #10 · answered by LuNis 3 · 1 1

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