"I think that separation of church and state is the problem. This is a sick sick world, and to condone the removal of Christ from the same doctrine that was created in His name, "one nation under God" seems horrid to me. If we, as Christ's obedient children stuck with Him instead of allowing sin and degradation of Christ to run rampit, perhaps we wouldn't be in the situation we are in today. Homosexual marriage, premarital sex, telling others it's ok to believe in other gods... NO! It's wrong. I can't wait for Revelations to take place, so the Lord can take us home, and out of this place."
2007-01-19 12:16:36 · 21 answers · asked by kyubikitsune888 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
i never said i was christian, thanks for making assumptions! Im just seeing how many theocrats are on this site.
2007-01-19 12:26:42 · update #1
Sorry to bug ya here, but I have to mention one small thing about your statement. The Whole "one nation under god" bit was not added to the pledge until the 50's. Before that it was just "one nation, indivisible." Personally, I find the whole "One nation, Indivisible" line to be much more affirming of our country as a whole, rather then the divisiveness perpetuated by the various religious sects. However, that is not the point.
The statement reeks of close-minded bigotry, and a singular hatred of EVERYTHING this country was founded on. (I assume that you speak of the United States strictly by the use of the phrase "One nation under god")
This country was founded upon the tenants of freedom, and liberty. Not just freedom of speech, or the right to bear arms, but also the freedom of religion. Close-minded people have tried to take that freedom away from us, whether those people be atheist, christian, muslim, or jewish (or any other religion for that matter.) People should be free to live and practice their religion. Also, people who choose to be separated from a religion should be allowed to have a freedom FROM religion. Tolerance of others is key to survival, and if someone chooses to worship a different invisible man in the sky then you, then that is a wonderful thing.
Do not force your beliefs on others. Feel free to offer them up as an alternative to other beliefs, but do not herald them as the only true belief.
A famous character in the bible once said "Love thy neighbor." I think that is a very good principle to live by. A more modern day example that I have since held near and dear to my heart, is "Be excellent to each other."
If everyone could just live by those two simple statements what a wonderful world this would be.
2007-01-19 12:33:18 · answer #1 · answered by Infidelus_Prime 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No
The statement seems a little mixed. So, no I couldn't FULLY agree. I'm wondering who made that statement - some well known person or activist?
The historical problem with church and state being together is also a problem that plagues the world today. To begin with, you have religious states forcing their policies on everyone and religious/political leaders taking advantage of their position to further their own personal wealth and power.
If you have religious groups practicing intolerance towards anyone for any reason, you create situations where people are not allowed to find out for themselves the difference between right and wrong. That creates problems later on down the road. It is certainly good that religious groups would want to prevent people from making mistakes in their lives, in order for their lives to be better. And it is certainly a good thing that people in general have a great capacity for using their own common sense to avoid things that can potentially ruin their lives. But it isn't good to be able to force people to do things against their will.
For any powerful group, whether it be a church, a state, a combination church/state, or any other powerful organization to force others to do exactly as they say is a good way to incite revolution. I would hope the individual who made this statement would be able to understand this. Maybe [inciting revolution] that's what this person wants to do.
Therefore, no I can't agree with that part of the statement.
As for the other parts, this can be a "sick" world and it does seem a little odd that there seems to be a movement to COMPLETELY remove God from our nation. And the tremendous success of the Christian lifestyle and way of life is a testament that there are a great many good things about the Christian way of life. And (in my humble opinion) it would be an incredibly wonderful thing if the Lord returned to wrap up this 2000 year old mystery and took all of us to a better place.
But to think that combining the church and state would do nothing but solve all of our problems is a mistake that has the proof of history both ancient and current. By the same token, the chaos that seems to plague secular humanism is also a very destructive force. The best way seems to be to find out about the best that both worlds, freestanding religion and freestanding humanity, have to offer, a make that the way we should go.
2007-01-19 13:50:18 · answer #2 · answered by endpov 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Separation of church and state is not a problem at all. I can only begin to imagine the problems we would have if we started incorporating the two (Oh wait, we already are having arguments over things like prayer in school, etc.) I think this person is confused with "One nation under God" having anything to do with Christ. Yes, in our Christian religion it works, but there are others (Jews, for one) in which God has nothing to do with Christ. The strange thing is...this person is busily judging others when the Christian religion doesn't believe that is something a person should do.
2007-01-19 12:32:02 · answer #3 · answered by KS 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
nothing against it but most churches still preach against a lot of those things. however i think it was bound to happen anyways. i mean why did God flood the earth in the first place? back then it happened and it is again. and some christians are not all that good either. a lot judge people when we are not supposed to. as well as say they are christian and then they turn around and drink and party and stuff.
and most of that is tolerated because most churches rather just see the people going to church regardless what they do.
for the doors are to be opened to everyone and as i said you are judging for we all sin. let he without sin through the first stone. and all sin is equal. so if you say a lie you are just as guilty as any of the things you listed.
2007-01-19 12:24:04 · answer #4 · answered by dannamanna99 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No!
I think we still need the separation of church and state. What I think we need is a society with higher morals than we currently uphold. We seem to let the LOUDEST people do the talking for us. If the "Moral Majority" would speak up and quit being spineless we could eliminate the downward spiral this country is in. Open debate of ethics and religion would be a welcome thing. As a Christian I am not afraid to defend my faith in open debate. Are the Atheists and Evolutionist afraid to defend their faith, or are they just uninformed.
2007-01-19 14:59:34 · answer #5 · answered by L Strunk 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Those of True Christian Faith do oppose all that you mention.... the reason that most of that is tolerated, even in many"churches" is that too many of those who say they are "Christians" are not. Those of The True Christian Faith are a small minority in The US and less in the rest of the world.... but... no True Christian would advocate any man led Theocracy... that is only for Christ to establish when he returns to this earth to reign for a thousand years.
2007-01-19 12:24:31 · answer #6 · answered by idahomike2 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I know it's frustrating in these days and the world is pretty messed up, and we feel we need to generalize things so that we know where changes should be made so we can move forward.We need to be patient with each other and consider other people's views. and nobody knows for sure if christianity is 100% you may be hindu in your next life and feel the same way about that religion as you do christianity. it's your upbringing (programing)
2007-01-19 12:28:52 · answer #7 · answered by ferrari_83000 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God didn't force us all to believe and a country shouldn't do that either. I do wish more people would make the decision to accept the gift that God gave us through His Son Jesus The Christ.
I have never told anyone it's ok to believe in other gods, just that it's their choice. What else can I do?
May God Bless you.
2007-01-19 12:28:29 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Separation of church and state is a problem, but not the problem.
Having a Christian government doesn't make everyone Christian.
And forcing everyone to be a Christian would just be wrong.
2007-01-19 12:19:46 · answer #9 · answered by *Melody* 2 · 6⤊ 1⤋
Whoever wrote that is very small minded and intolerant of others. The writer of that is exactly the kind of people that are what is wrong with this world.
2007-01-19 12:21:28 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋