Are the following some reasons to think twice before accepting the Trinitarian Creed at face value?The word "Trinity" is never employed in the Bible. Advocates of the Trinity doctrine are very inclusive and judgemental to anyone offering a valid variation of a crucial doctrine. I have detected cult-like behavior in staunch Trinity advocates. The doctrine of the Trinity itself feels incomplete and lacking. I'm not saying I am totally against what the doctrine is saying but I'm strongly against accepting the Trinity dogma as "written in stone."
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2007-01-19 08:50:09 · 20 answers · asked by icyhott4urmind 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God (cf. John 8:58, 10:38, 14:10; Col. 2:9). It also clearly teaches that the Holy Spirit is God (cf. Acts 5:3–4, 28:25–28; 1 Cor. 2:10–13). Everyone agrees the Father is God. Yet there is only one God (Mark 12:29, 1 Cor. 8:4–6, Jas. 2:19).
Jesus tells his apostles to baptize "in the name [notice, singular, not plural] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matt. 28:19). This is a proof-text: three distinct Persons united in the one divine name. In 2 Corinthians 13:14, Paul writes, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." We see this same unity of divine Persons in 1 Corinthians 12:4–11, Ephesians 4:4–6, and 1 Peter 1:2–3.
2007-01-19 08:57:13 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 5⤋
NO! The concept of the trinity is not a scriptural teaching. It is rooted in Greek philosophy, several bible text have even been erroneously rendered to support this man-made doctrine.
As many times as this subject has been broached no one has been able to reason on it using the scriptures, however people are determined to be blind-sided to this erroneous dogma
James 3:17 says the the Wisdom from above is reasonable or easily entreated.
2007-01-19 10:34:51 · answer #2 · answered by coolcat 2 · 3⤊ 0⤋
No, the Bible doesn't clearly teach that or mention "trinity". I think one could just as easily deduce that they are seperate beings (seeing that Christ numerous times refers to being sent by the Father). Also, just because it states they are One, doesn't necessarily mean they are literally one; Christ also says we should be one with Him, and I don't imagine we'll disappear in Christ. AMDG (an answerer above) tries very hard, but in the end it's just another opinion - although he is incorrect in the whole baptising in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost being support of ONE. If it said in the "names" of the Father...it would just mean that each had multiple names.
What it comes down to is what we as individuals believe. Religion is a matter of faith, and is personal. Good luck.
2007-01-19 09:53:03 · answer #3 · answered by straightup 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
While we grant that the dogma of the Blessed Trinity is an absolute mystery, which unassisted reason could never discover, nor even recognize as possible, we deny that it involves any contradiction. A mere statement of the doctrine will make this clear. In God there are three Persons in one Divine Essence, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, really distinct, equal and of one substance. The father is Unbegotten, the Son Begotten of the Father, and the Holy Ghost Proceeds from the Father and the Son (2 Council of Lyons, 1274). All things in God are common to the three Persons, and are one and the same, except
where there is the opposition of relation {Decree of Eugenius IV for the Jacobites). The divine activity is common to the Three Persons, who are the One Principle of all things. As the words one and three refer to two essentially different things, NATURE and PERSON, there can be no question of any contradiction of terms. Three persons who possess human nature are rightly called three men, because the human nature in each is not numerically the same; the Three Persons who have the Divine Nature are not three gods, because the Divine Nature is numerically the same in each one of them. How this can be we can never comprehend. We accept this doctrine only because it has been revealed to us by God Himself.
The dogma of the Trinity was revealed to us by Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who alone could teach us concerning the intimate life of God (Matt. xi. 27). It is taught on every page of the New Testament, and has been handed down, together with the Incarnation, by the Church's divine tradition, as a doctrine which distinguishes Christianity from all other religions. That it was in no way derived either from the Jew or Pagan has been shown in the two volumes of Lebreton's Histoire du Dogma de la Trinite.
The Trinity is clearly mentioned in the account of the Incarnation given by St. Luke (i. 32, 33), in St. Matthew's description of the Baptism of Christ (hi. 16, 17), in our Lord's discourse at the Last Supper (John xiv. 11, 16), and in His divine commission to the Apostles (Matt, xxviii. 19; Cf. C. E., xv., 48). It is set forth explicitly in the baptismal formula, which all critics acknowledge to be primitive, in the doxologies (doxe = glory), or divine praises to the Three Divine Persons which were known as early as the first century, and in all the early Fathers, especially of the third and fourth centuries in both East (St. Athanasius, St. Basil, St. Gregory of Nazianzus and St. Gregory of Nyssa) and West (St. Hilary, St. Augustine), when the doctrine was denied from every possible viewpoint.
2007-01-20 15:21:31 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
No matter how it , as you say, "feels", the teaching that Jesus is God...and the Holy Spirit is God along with the Father is taught throughout the Bible.
None of us understand it. But then we are not in the position of demanding that God explain things about Himself to Him. He is God. He will be OUR final judge.
Isa 55:8-9
8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,"
declares the LORD.
9 "As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
(from New International Version)
James 4:7
7 Submit yourselves, then, to God.
(from New International Version)
Rom 9:20
0 But who are you, O man, to talk back to God?
(from New International Version)
You need to go through Scripture looking for the answer to you doubt. The word "Trinity" is NOT a word in the Bible. It is only a "theological construct", a word which people use to cover a large topic of mutual understanding.
I am a theologian: Four years as a religion major. Four more years at an accredited theological seminary and almost 30 years afterwards as a writer and teacher of Bible studies.
2007-01-19 10:08:10 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
Three distinct Persons but One DIVINE nature, and that nature is GOD.
It is called the Godhead see Acts 17:29; Romans 1:20; Colossians 2:9
Trinity means 3 Diety's no it is not in the Bible so We should not go around saying we worship the trinity!!!!!!!
We are to worship God the Father through Jesus the Son and be comforted by the Holy Spirit.
These 3 dwell in the lives of TRUE Christians by influencing our daily lives.
Christian in PA
2007-01-19 09:14:02 · answer #6 · answered by Penny Mae 7 · 1⤊ 4⤋
This verse is the best I am aware of..... 1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost [NKJV: Holy Spirit]: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
2007-01-19 08:54:46 · answer #7 · answered by Heatmizer 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋
The only 2 things Christ said to keep as doctrine:
Water baptism, and Communion. All other practices (worshipping saints...) are ...well, wrong.
Jesus told the disciples to baptize people in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit, but he did not tell them to worship it like another diety or consider it 'the way'
Yes, it's true. Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit are the same, but we don't need to be all caught up in chanting about it.
Good question. It teaches Jesus, and Jesus' love and salvation, a gift from God, that is given by the Holy Spirit, which is what is with us every day.
By the way, in the bible the 'holy spirit' is reffered to as a 'he', not an 'it'.
It's not a floating wisp of energy, it's a real being.That's how God can be omnipresent and stuff. Woot.
2007-01-19 08:56:18 · answer #8 · answered by Doug 5 · 1⤊ 4⤋
No. The Bible is really called the Holy Scriptures and the inspired Word of God and nowhere in the scriptures can one find that lie about the trinity. It's a man made word that God never put His stamp of approval on, otherwise it would be in there.
2007-01-19 08:59:40 · answer #9 · answered by avaddohn-Apollyon 4 · 3⤊ 2⤋
no infact the word trinity is not in the bible but is in the Quran teaching people it was not the correct way of thinking. Now don't get me wrong I'm not against your religon just trying to tell you whats in mine.
2007-01-19 09:28:23 · answer #10 · answered by unknown 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋