"But though we,or an angel from heaven,preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,let him be accursed".Galatians 1:8
"For such are false apostles,deceitful workers,transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.And no marvel;for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.Therfore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;whose end shall be according to their works" 2 Corinthians 11:13-15.
Paul speaks of himself and even an angel from heaven,that even they were not to change the gospel.So who gave you the authority to change the word of God ? When you can't even live what has been written.And if your going to tell me the church has the authority, which of you two are right ?
2007-01-19 06:14:36 · 7 answers · asked by don_steele54 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Lives7, I don't use a Catholic Bible and if they do aprove of the KJV. you need to tell them.They tell me mine isn't complete and theirs is.
2007-01-19 08:58:25 · update #1
Book of Mormon and Book of Catechism, The Bible says, "if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Is 8:20
Book of Mormon and Book of Catechism is not authorized by Christ. Col. 3:17
Book of Mormon and Book of Catechism is going beyond what is written. 1 Cor. 4:6
Book of Mormon and Book of Catechism is of men. Matt. 15:9; Col. 2:8
Book of Mormon and Book of Catechism is not of truth. John 4:24
Book of Mormon and Book of Catechism is another gospel. Gal. 1:6-9
Book of Mormon and Book of Catechism is adding to the Word of God. Rev. 22:18; Deut. 4:2
2007-01-19 11:41:27 · answer #1 · answered by House Speaker 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Catechism written as an instructional document in modern language.
Many hate what they perceive of Roman Catholicism not the Truth of Roman Catholicism.
Besides the Bible you use today was confirmed as authentic by the Roman Catholic Church. All modern interpretations of the Holy Bible regardless of denominations developed from the original, Roman Catholic Bible, whether they include the complete letters or not. Historical Fact.
Mt 28:18-20, Jn 20 23, 1 Cor 11:23-24, Lk 10:16, Mt 18:18, Jn 16:13.
The Authority rest in Rome. Holy Scripture for 2000 years.
2007-01-19 16:03:27 · answer #2 · answered by Lives7 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
The Book of Mormon is intended to be divinely inspired scripture. The Catechism of the Catholic Church is intended to be a summary of the dogma accumulated by the Church over the last two thousand years. It is allegedly based upon the Bible, and in fact cites scripture throughout. You should read them both and see for yourself--they are very different indeed.
I'm neither a Mormon nor a Catholic, but I do think it's important to know as much as possible about your sources from your sources before making assumptions.
2007-01-19 14:40:47 · answer #3 · answered by piegie314 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Pastor Billy says: but...................which catechism?
you do know that all Protestants (and that includes Baptists, Fundamentalists, Evangelicals of every stripe) have catechisms.
All first Protestants had catechisms, they either called them a 'catechism' like the Calvinist Catechism of Geneva (1542-1545) or they called them Confessions like the Lutheran Augsburg Confession (1530).
Here are some additional Protestant catechisms
Reformed Belgic Confession 1561
Anglican Thirty-nine Articles 1563
Reformed Heidelberg Catechism 1563
Presbyterian Westminster Confession 1648
Once again don you haven't taken the time to think things through or you would have known the meaning of catechism of which every Protestant community has one.
Go to any Protestant church web-page and you'll find a link to their catechism which is the link called profession of faith or mission statement of articles of faith.
addition#1 Well don the bible you claim as yours relies on the authority of a Jewish council which decided on (long after Jesus Christ) your closed OT canon and on a Roman Catholic council which decide on your closed NT canon. Now considering both of these authorities don't hold any weight with you why do you even use 'your bible' as you have little respect of the communities which assembled these separate books into one authoritative volume?
2007-01-19 15:22:30 · answer #4 · answered by Pastor Billy 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Whenever someone says "my book is better than yours" I am not sure if I want to laugh, cry or scream.
If you truly believe that the Protestant Bible was written by God and that the Catholic Bible was not, I do not even know where to begin.
Peace
2007-01-19 14:24:02 · answer #5 · answered by Adoptive Father 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
You are absolutley right. Both are a very, very bad idea. The Scriptures are complete. They do not require any additional words of man, esspecially so many words of man that it is required to bind them in a book.
Mans traditions make void the Word of God.
2007-01-19 14:20:55 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
A catechism is a summary or exposition of doctrine, traditionally used in Christian religious teaching from New Testament times to the present.
The Book of Mormon is not.
Catechisms are doctrinal manuals often in the form of questions followed by answers to be memorized.
The Book of Mormon is not.
Borrowed from the Greek, the term catechesis originally meant simply the oral transmission from teacher to student, instruction by dialogue. The word comes from a Greek word associated with the theater or agora; it means "to make resound, as with an echo." As with many things in Christian custom, the practice of catechizing was adapted from a similar style of instruction in the Jewish synagogues and rabbinical schools. The rabbis had the dialogue method, and the Greeks had the Socratic method, both of which informed Christian catechesis.
Unlike both of these precursor influences, the Christian emphasis from the beginning was to pass on articles of faith, or definitions of belief. It is beginning with faith that Christians expected obedience to follow.
The Book of Mormon does not teach what Mormons believe.
Christian tradition holds that Catechetical schools were established almost immediately by the apostles themselves. Act 18:25 mentions a Jew named Apollos who had been instructed in the way of the Lord.
One of the most important of these schools is held by tradition to have been established by Mark the Evangelist, in Alexandria, Egypt. In his Ecclesiastic History, Eusebius recounts the legend that Mark came to Egypt during the first or third year of the Roman Emperor Claudius, and he returned to preach and evangelize in Alexandria, between 61 and 68 A.D. This is the school of theology where Clement of Alexandria and Origen were teachers.
Through schools such as this, summaries of doctrine were produced with a view to carefully and methodically hand down the teaching of the Church. As a summary of what must be believed, the Nicene creed was taught in the Greek churches, and the Apostles' Creed was dominant in the Latin churches; the Lord's Prayer was taught as the model of how to pray; and, the Ten Commandments were the summary of how to live. At various times and places, special chapters were added to the manuals, for instruction on the sacraments, the Athanasian Creed, the Te Deum, and other elements of the Liturgy. Lists of sins and virtues also became a common part of catechesis, in the monasteries and the churches.
The best known modern catechisms of the Orthodox and Catholic traditions are not meant to be memorized. Rather, they are massive compendia of detailed explanations of doctrine. The Jerusalem Catechism of Orthodoxy is a work primarily designed for refutation of error in the tradition of Irenaeus's Against Heresies.
The Book of Mormon is not.
Among the first projects of the Protestant Reformation, was the production of catechisms self-consciously modelled after the older traditions of Cyril and Augustine. These catechisms showed special admiration for Chrysostom's view of the family as a "little church", and placed strong responsibility on every father to teach his children, in order to prevent them from coming to Baptism or the Lord's Table ignorant of the doctrine under which they are expected to live as Christians.
The Book of Mormon does not.
Luther's Large Catechism (1530) typifies the emphasis which the Protestants placed on the importance of knowledge and understanding of definitions, or articles of faith.
The Book of Mormon does not.
Calvin's aim in writing the Catechism of 1545, was to set a basic pattern of doctrine, meant to be imitated by other catechists, which would not affirm local distinctions or dwell on controversial issues, but would serve as a pattern for what was expected to be taught by Christian fathers and other teachers of children in the Church.
The Book of Mormon does not.
The structure of the Heidelberg Catechism is based on the belief that the single work of salvation brings forward the three persons of the Trinity in turn, to make God fully and intimately known by his work of salvation, referring back to the Apostles' Creed as an epitome of Christian faith. Assurance of salvation is the unifying theme throughout this catechism: assurance obtained by the work of Christ, applied through the sacraments, and resulting in grateful obedience to the commandments and persistence in prayer.
The Book of Mormon is not.
The Heidelberg Catechism is the most widely used of the Catechisms of the Reformed churches.
Together with the Westminster Confession of Faith (1647), the Westminster Assembly also produced two catechisms, a Larger and a Shorter, which were intended for use in Christian families and in churches. These documents have served as the doctrinal standards, subordinate to the Bible, for Presbyterians and other Reformed churches around the world. The Shorter Catechism shows the Assembly's reliance upon the previous work of Calvin, Lasco, and the theologians of Heidelberg. It is organized in two main sections summarizing what the Scriptures principally teach: the doctrine of God, and the duty required of men. Questions and answers cover the usual elements: Faith, the Ten Commandments, the Sacraments, and Prayer.
The Book of Mormon does not.
Catechisms represent an obvious, practical method of passing on instruction, and as such examples can be found in many traditions, but not in Mormonism.
Mormonism uses a Temple endowment experience as a hypnotic, relaxed, even sleepy alpha like state for receptivity to church indoctrination, oaths, instruction, commitment. Similar to Moonie repetitive indoctrination sessions where chanting, singing, and long periods of lecturing happen.
2007-01-20 02:12:54 · answer #7 · answered by kirstycristy 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋