Bible question for ex- Christian Atheists and Christians?

Question

In Romas 8:37; what does "being more than a conquerors" mean to you?

I asked for the Ex-Christian Athiests because quite often they know their bible better than we Christians do, especially the one's on this board.

Sorry for the confusion.

Answer 1

He is saying that Christians are not sheep, but through Jesus they have become greater than conquerors. Saying they have the ability to overcome persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or the sword.

Answer 2

Not much, really. I wonder if you've got it right, though. First of all, the phrase doesn't appear in my New English Bible at the location you cited, although something similar appears in the King James, the New Revised and the Douay-Rheims as "...more than conquerors...". The New American has "we overwhelmingly conquer..."

I have yet to find "more than a conquerors" anywhere. I checked the Novum Testamentum Graece and found nothing similar.

Could you let me know what version you are using?

Answer 3

My pastor often uses the illustration of a man who goes out and works hard, makes some sells, earns some commissions and bonuses, and get a big paycheck at the end of the month. He is a conqueror.

He comes home, and his wife snatches the paycheck and goes shopping. She is "more than a conqueror". She gets all the benefits of the conqueror without having to fight the battle. They are hers because of the relationship she has with the conqueror.

As Christians, we are more that a conqueror, because we get all the benefits of Christ victory without having to die on the cross. They are ours because of the relationship with have with the conqueror.

Answer 4

Why take one verse and focus on on word?

Romans 8:28-39 is so interwoven that to take one verse of it and try to make it stand alone is to take it entirely out of context.

This is the passage that basically says nothing can separate you from the love of Christ. Now then, does this mean your God loves everyone no matter what, or that if you love Christ you will never stop loving him?

Considering this is also the passage that basically says no one can be a Christian unless God wills it (and thus, that not everyone is called to be a Christian), why do Christians witness? It says right there in 29 that he predestined and preconfigured those he foreknew to be in the likeness of Christ.

And since Christians also claim God changes his mind (God told the Jews that the covenant was ETERNAL but Jesus said he was a New Covenant), this means that God could change his mind about the destiny of a person.

Basically, this passage removes all free will from the equation of religion, yet if I don't believe in your religion, your deity's going to burn me in hell for all eternity...

Some deity you follow. Sounds more like a monster to me. You guys really need to take a few lessons from the Jews.

Answer 5

Not much. As a christian turned atheist, it may illustrate an interesting morale lesson or philosophical point, but as a scholar, I would not draw any conclsions or meanings without considering the whole text that contains it. This is a major problem in christianity today, they tend to take the bible as if it were written as a series of verses so any single verse can be considered without it's context.

Answer 6

What does it mean to be more than a conqueror? Well a conqueror has victory over his enemy, but it is still possible for him to later fall in defeat to that same enemy. As more than conquerors we can never fall in defeat. As St. Paul says... there is absolutely nothing that can tear us away from the love of Christ and thus make us fall. Sin has been conquered by Christ once and for all and will never be able to achieve any victory.

Answer 7

More than conquerors: How is the Christian more than a conqueror?

He overcomes with a greater power, the power of Jesus
He overcomes with a greater motive, the glory of Jesus
He overcomes with a greater victory, losing nothing even in the battle
He overcomes with a greater love, conquering enemies with love and converting persecutors with patience

Answer 8

No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:37-39

To me this passage is about completely overcoming a trial or challenge. Conquerors come in and occupy there's always the threat of being deposed, but with Christ Jesus that threat doesn't exist. The victory is absolute.

Answer 9

It means we are more than conquerors- A conqueror is not a one time winner but the one who always wins and never looses. We are more than that. "The Conqueror.

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Answer 10

Like Paul, who quoted Psalm 44:22, we have studied God's written Word. We understand that it is for the sake of God's name that these things happen to us, his "sheep." The sanctification of God's name and the vindication of his universal sovereignty are involved. It is because of such major issues that God has permitted trials, not because he no longer loves us. No matter what the distressing circumstance may be, we are assured that God's love for his people, including each one of us, has not changed. Any seeming defeat we may suffer will turn out to be a victory if we keep our integrity. We are strengthened and sustained by the assurance of God's unbreakable love.